Tamiya America website has released news of a new decal setting solution that is soon to be released.
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CMOT
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 03:25 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 03:46 PM UTC
Organic solvent? As in vinegar?
I'm sure it's great stuff, but I never had any problems with the old stuff, and I'll bet I decaled at least 35-40 undecorated Athearn locomotives back in the day. Never had a complaint from anyone.
I'm sure it's great stuff, but I never had any problems with the old stuff, and I'll bet I decaled at least 35-40 undecorated Athearn locomotives back in the day. Never had a complaint from anyone.
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 08:58 PM UTC
Well I must give it a try and at that price it's worth it.
As said before, there's nothing wrong with the old way and product, but if it works "better" then it's certainly worth checking out.
Thanks for this news!
~ Jeff
As said before, there's nothing wrong with the old way and product, but if it works "better" then it's certainly worth checking out.
Thanks for this news!
~ Jeff
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 09:37 PM UTC
I'm not sure about, that's just my guess, but it seems to me that they've been trying to produce a product line conform to European stricter legislation regarding health and safety. That's might be the reason why they've made also the Limonene liquid glue
Of course there would be nothing wrong about, the only doubt which I have is...Will be the safer product as effective as the risky ones?
Thanks for sharing this piece of news
Of course there would be nothing wrong about, the only doubt which I have is...Will be the safer product as effective as the risky ones?
Thanks for sharing this piece of news
barkingdigger
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Posted: Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 10:45 PM UTC
Interesting. I thought the active ingredient in most decal setters was vinegar, just at different strengths. It may be worth a try, but I'll pass up on their "advice" to use a wet fingertip to position my decals! (Haven't they heard of wet paintbrushes? No skin oils to contaminate the paint...)
Tom
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2012 - 12:07 AM UTC
Vinegar is not a solvent.
Vinegar is a aqueous solution of acetic acid.
Acetic acid is a soft acid easily soluble in water based from ethanol.
You can find pure acetic acid call glacial acetic acid in most lab based product
Commercial vinegar has a very low concentration of acetic acid.
This acid is soft and can degraded the plastic film on the decal to ease the application
If organic solvent will be used both substrate and decal can be destroy.
HTH
seb
Vinegar is a aqueous solution of acetic acid.
Acetic acid is a soft acid easily soluble in water based from ethanol.
You can find pure acetic acid call glacial acetic acid in most lab based product
Commercial vinegar has a very low concentration of acetic acid.
This acid is soft and can degraded the plastic film on the decal to ease the application
If organic solvent will be used both substrate and decal can be destroy.
HTH
seb
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2012 - 01:08 AM UTC
I have seen that stuff here in Canada already, and have not heard anything good about it. I will stick with my Walther's Solvaset. I love this stuff, and it is not just for Model Railroading....
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2012 - 01:26 AM UTC
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I have seen that stuff here in Canada already, and have not heard anything good about it. I will stick with my Walther's Solvaset. I love this stuff, and it is not just for Model Railroading....
The problem is Solvaset is very aggressive decaling setting solution.
barkingdigger
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2012 - 01:41 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI have seen that stuff here in Canada already, and have not heard anything good about it. I will stick with my Walther's Solvaset. I love this stuff, and it is not just for Model Railroading....
The problem is Solvaset is very aggressive decaling setting solution.
Yep - that's why I use Micro Set/Sol on most things, and keep a pot of Solvaset handy for the occasional ornery ones! You can never have too many tools...
Tom
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Posted: Friday, May 18, 2012 - 10:33 AM UTC
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