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Dragon: New Smart Panzer IV J
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 06:10 PM UTC


Dragon Models has released news of a new Panzer.Bef.Wg.IV Ausf.J Smart Kit. I know that many will be thinking “not another Panzer IV”, but there is appeal to the Panzer IV which keeps them coming and it has zimmerit.

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Biggles2
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 07:12 PM UTC
Hmmm...must be the August 30, 1944 production run.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 07:34 PM UTC
Before or after lunch?
MLD
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 07:35 PM UTC
before or after Fritz went to use the lavatory?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 08:11 PM UTC
A J with zimm... OK. Actually, that is both "new" and maybe worthwhile, as all J produced up into SEP 1944 did come with factory zimmerit. So this could be an opportunity to make one of those earlier J without having to do the DIY zimm thing or buy some resin zimm kit.

BUT... And, sadly, seems more and more common now-a-days to find oneself saying "but" with Dragon's newer releases... There is something glaringly WRONG in this kit!

It provides the turret schurzen (great)... but apparently no hull schurzen plates - at least not in evidence on the kit box pics, far as I saw. ALL of these J left the factory with schurzen (in AUG 1944, probably would have been the solid plate and not the later Thoma mesh stuff), and the kit does have the racks mounted for solid plates. It should have those schurzen, and probably about any of these seen in the field would have had them on. IF the D has not included these plates, they of course can be scratched or purchased via AM PE or something, but, given the D's usual inclusion of schurzen in kits where it is warranted, I confess surprise at this omission here.

And this one appears to have the now-standard DS band tracks... That does not add any attraction for me! Phooey!

Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 08:14 PM UTC
That production run was actually very rare, as only 15 were built that day, and of those only 1 made it to the front, where it was promptly lost.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 09:29 PM UTC
Oh good grief...this is just getting silly..... still so many more subject to be done, and they keep on pumping out this garbage.... pre production run, post preproduction run, past tense production run, pre past tense production run, production run with SN#'s, production run without SN#'s, production run while the sun was shining, production run after the sun went down.....when does it end......????
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 09:30 PM UTC
Hmmmmm,, Fahrgestell Nr 92200. Is that the address & zip code of the factory that produced them??
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 09:53 PM UTC
Here we go again
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 10:54 PM UTC
All these late-war variants and not a single short barrel, Finnish or even Arab Stug.... why?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 - 11:10 PM UTC

Quoted Text

before or after Fritz went to use the lavatory?



Its after Wolfgang went to the toilet that this tank was produced. Unfortunately Wolfgang went inside the tank meaning that this vehicle will require Mig's new colour "poop brown" if your installing an historically correct interior
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 12:39 AM UTC
Fahrgestell is something like chasi serial number. So we realy reached a point where Dragon produces a kit of a single existing tank. And where is the promissed M3 Lee/Grant ?
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 02:21 AM UTC
Interesting
bilbobee
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 03:04 AM UTC
dragon another release with no appeal to me at all, spruces from other kits, and of course The Dreaded D S tracks. Another let down, not interested
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 04:43 AM UTC
I want to collect all their zim kits !
digger303
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 05:14 AM UTC
yes the zim is the only attraction and if it was late war did it even exist on this variant
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 07:23 AM UTC
Wow, another Pz. IV, where is Stug. III Ausf. E?
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 09:39 AM UTC
If the new-build variants were all delivered in August-September, 1944, most would have had Zimmerit (it was discontinued in late September).
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 11:19 AM UTC
But why the DS tracks? Where is the Magic track?
digger303
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 02:52 PM UTC
magic track is labour intensive I think...ds much cheaper, although it could be provided still on the sprue or as an after market item at a cheap price say $8 and they would be doing ok.
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 06:22 PM UTC

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Wow, another Pz. IV, where is Stug. III Ausf. E?



That's a very good question.
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 08:21 PM UTC
Oh for heavens sake people if you don't like it don't buy it !
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Posted: Thursday, July 30, 2015 - 10:36 PM UTC
Fahrgestell number 92200? I'll buy it if the Fahrgestell number is on the chassis!
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Posted: Friday, July 31, 2015 - 12:30 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, July 31, 2015 - 01:07 AM UTC
I like the pz. IV, and it is convenient for me to have the zimmerit already molded on. Magic tracks are very nice but I can deal with the DS tracks. With the limitations on my modeling time right now this kit would be an ideal subject. I just wish the figure was included.
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