_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV
For discussions on tanks, artillery, jeeps, etc.
News
Dragon: Tiger with Borgward
varanusk
Staff MemberManaging Editor
ARMORAMA
Visit this Community
Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / Espaņa
Joined: July 04, 2013
KitMaker: 1,288 posts
Armorama: 942 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 04:30 AM UTC


The latest news from Dragon is Tiger I (mid) with a Borgward IV Ausf.A heavy demolition vehicle. The Borgward was remotely controlled from the tank.

Read the Full News Story

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
bill_c
Staff MemberCampaigns Administrator
MODEL SHIPWRIGHTS
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: January 09, 2008
KitMaker: 10,553 posts
Armorama: 8,109 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 04:31 AM UTC
Is this another David Byrden project? If so, then count me in!
brekinapez
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 04:52 AM UTC
Is it the old tool of the Borgward or did they retool something?
Bravo1102
Visit this Community
New Jersey, United States
Joined: December 08, 2003
KitMaker: 2,864 posts
Armorama: 2,497 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 05:49 AM UTC
The features illustrations are suspiciously quiet about the Borgward. They probably didn't retool a thing.
Jmarles
Visit this Community
British Columbia, Canada
Joined: November 02, 2008
KitMaker: 1,138 posts
Armorama: 953 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 10:48 AM UTC
So this is a rebox of kit no. 6700? Looks like clear parts and SOME of the PE is still there albeit with DS tracks. The Borgward is most likely the 1999 DML rebox of the old Gunze kit. Still if the price is right it may do well. If it is overpriced, the solution is easy: The Borgward is still easy to find under both Dragon and Revell for about $17. The Tiger can still be found as well.
Byrden
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
KitMaker: 2,233 posts
Armorama: 2,221 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 05:38 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Is this another David Byrden project? If so, then count me in!



I have submitted drawings for the decals and the antenna.

The marketing materials show a "new tooled engine hatch", but really, it should not be there.

David
C_JACQUEMONT
Visit this Community
Loire-Atlantique, France
Joined: October 09, 2004
KitMaker: 2,433 posts
Armorama: 2,325 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 07:13 PM UTC

Quoted Text

The Borgward is most likely the 1999 DML rebox of the old Gunze kit.



I think it's the other way around, Gunze also reboxed some Dragon kits, in the case of the Borgward in a Panzer III package (I have one for sale if anyone is interested).

The Dragon Borgward was also reboxed by Revell Germany.

I wonder if they'll rebox it with a StuG in another package? They already did the repacking with a Smart Kit Panzer III.


Cheers,

Christophe
Byrden
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
KitMaker: 2,233 posts
Armorama: 2,221 posts
Posted: Monday, November 07, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
The artwork shows spare tracks across the bow. I will advise against that; I can't find any tigers in s.Pz.Abt.508 with spare tracks there.

David
digger303
Visit this Community
Australia
Joined: April 25, 2012
KitMaker: 69 posts
Armorama: 69 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 03:59 AM UTC
thought they did a package like this once before
tatbaqui
Staff MemberNews Writer
ARMORAMA
#040
Visit this Community
Metro Manila, Philippines
Joined: May 06, 2007
KitMaker: 2,713 posts
Armorama: 2,451 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 04:06 AM UTC
What I recall is a Pz III + Borgward release.
Taeuss
Visit this Community
Manitoba, Canada
Joined: January 03, 2016
KitMaker: 3,791 posts
Armorama: 3,778 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 04:12 AM UTC
Not that I can tell by looking over the Dragon catalogues that I have. They did release a Pz III "J" with a Borgward "B" by Cyber Hobby under CH-6510, though it came with the blued-out parts to also make an "A" variant. Interesting timing as I was just getting ready to put together a Tiger combo using either Cyber Hobby kits CH-9142 (early Tiger I) or CH-6660 (Mid). Thanks David, for the input on the front track pieces. I was wondering about the artwork, though it does look nice...
C_JACQUEMONT
Visit this Community
Loire-Atlantique, France
Joined: October 09, 2004
KitMaker: 2,433 posts
Armorama: 2,325 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 05:35 AM UTC
Dragon Borgward :

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/108044-dragon-6101-borgward-iv-ausf-a

Dragon Borgward + Panzer III :

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/133306-dragon-9054-pz-kpfw-iii-ausf-j-control-tank-and-borgward-iv-ausf-b

The Gunze Borgward rebox is here :

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/185957-gunze-sangyo-m35-borgward-iv-ausf-a

The Gunze Borgward + Panzer III rebox (the one I'm selling, wink wink nudge nudge) :


http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/VJQAAOSwQItUBvQT/s-l225.jpg
Cheers,

Christophe
Byrden
Visit this Community
Wien, Austria
Joined: July 12, 2005
KitMaker: 2,233 posts
Armorama: 2,221 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:13 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I was just getting ready to put together a Tiger combo using either Cyber Hobby kits CH-9142 (early Tiger I)




Have you photos of an Early Tiger with a Borgward controller?

David
Beastmaster
Visit this Community
United Kingdom
Joined: January 27, 2009
KitMaker: 592 posts
Armorama: 588 posts
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 - 11:35 AM UTC
And yet another Dragon Tiger with those flippin DS tracks.
 _GOTOTOP