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Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
Now that is exceedingly "far out"! Thanks Frenchy for throwing another log on the fire!

Mike

p.s. - ALMOST a tempting conversion build! I really like the diorama possibilities of the entire set up with the tall antenna painted red and white! The sun covers on all the tires would also give me a chance to use up some of the less than correct Italeri tires accumulating in my spares box.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 05:59 AM UTC
Cannot help but wonder why they needed a post war, "mobile" control tower that clearly wasn't movable, given that the truck is up on jack stands, has wheel covers and semi-perminent wiring coming out of several panels on the vehicle???

On the other hand it could probably still be ready to move on 20 minutes notice but why? Floods??
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Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 06:24 AM UTC
Just a guess. I think these truck-mounted towers were used on "rudimentary" airfields where it made things easier (and cheaper ) to use them rather than build "real" towers, like Fort-Flatter airfield (picture link in my previous post) which was located in the Sahara desert :



Algeria pics again :

Outdoor CCKW assembly line in Oran (october 1943) :







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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 11:49 AM UTC
OK, is this real?



Clearly this particular vehicle is REAL but did such a 6x6 exist in history or did this guy just have too many command car bodies laying around that he felt like wasting?
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 12:04 PM UTC
WC-63 frame, and cut up bodies of two command cars probably
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1359984818/Question+on+Nomenclature..........
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 01:17 PM UTC
Alex, I would agree that it is most certainly based on a WC-63 chassis. I also agree with the other folks on the website you posted the link to. This is most likely something one of a kind, built by a collector with too much time, money and spare parts.

However I have to respect the concept and the effort. It is very well done. The vehicle looks a bit German in the rear portion but it's all US up front!

Thanks for the additional photos!

Mike
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 03:11 PM UTC
It looks cool, kinda like a battlefield limo. I imagine a general and his posse showing up to a bar post war.....
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 04:15 AM UTC
It could however be like that armored Deuce I posted a while back. It could have been a one of a kind motor pool build from left over wartime damaged vehicle parts.
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 08:30 AM UTC
second Deuce and a half











will post some pictures of the completed Diorama once i have taken them

cheers

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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 02:00 AM UTC

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It looks cool, kinda like a battlefield limo. I imagine a general and his posse showing up to a bar post war.....



Yep, I may HAVE to build one. I just love to do slice and dice kit-bashing! The cloth top will be a challenge but everything else looks rather straight forward.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 02:41 AM UTC

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I just love to do slice and dice kit-bashing!



What about a low-silhouette Deuce ? ;



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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 02:53 AM UTC
OK Frenchy, this is a new one on me. Not really sure just what is low about this one??? With those flat front fenders is this a Studabaker creation?
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 03:26 AM UTC

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OK Frenchy, this is a new one on me. Not really sure just what is low about this one??? With those flat front fenders is this a Studabaker creation?



In fact it's a GMC truck indeed, called DCKW. Here are some related threads :

http://www.cckw.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1412

http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=58322&start=0

There was another variant with rounded fenders :



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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 03:36 AM UTC
OK, help me out here; I know there was a truely low-silhouette 6x6 Deuce that was at least prototyped but I don't recall its' designation????

It had a single drivers seat pushed back and outside the frame on the left side, the engine was then pushed rearward to clear the front axle so the entire vehicle was considerably lower.

I think it might have even had a second smaller loadbox in front of the engine and driver.

Ring a bell with anyone???
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 04:29 AM UTC
I'll have a look at my reference stuff when I'm back home from work

Heres's an interesting German-built (or rather rebuilt ) CCKW :





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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 04:30 AM UTC
Don't mean to make you folks feel any colder than you already are but check out this wintertime photo:

(warmuseum.net photo)

Short Wheelbase CCKW set-up as a towing tractor with fifth wheel! Note the side pull tow bar mounted over the rear tires on both these vehicles (never been exactly sure just how this accessory is supposed to work) but you usually only see this item mounted on recovery trucks. These guys must have been pulling a lot of cars out of ditches this day.

Happy Holidays!

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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:14 AM UTC

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OK, help me out here; I know there was a truely low-silhouette 6x6 Deuce that was at least prototyped but I don't recall its' designation????

It had a single drivers seat pushed back and outside the frame on the left side, the engine was then pushed rearward to clear the front axle so the entire vehicle was considerably lower.



Could be one of the two International's entries for the Low-Silhouette project.

Here's the International DOB M-5-6 :


I can send you informations and a few more pics of Low-silhouette 6x6 trucks (GMC, IHC, Studebaker) if you're interested..

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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:29 AM UTC
Frenchy, I would very much like to see anything you would want to send. I'll post them on here if you do.

The one you posted is looking much like what I remember but I feel sure the one I saw had no room for a passenger. I will search for the photo tonight as well. - Mike
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Posted: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 - 07:48 AM UTC
Watch your mailbox

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Posted: Friday, December 27, 2013 - 05:07 AM UTC
Some inspriation in Navy Gray:



Looks like Tamiya gray primer would be a perfect match!
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013 - 01:55 AM UTC
Back up above a few postings to the two Deuces in the snow and I talk about a "side pull towbar or recovery bar". (The curved bar hanging on the sides of the two trucks.) These were more commonly seen on wreckers but would anyone happen to have some photos or a TM page that shows how this accessory was to be used?

It might make for an interresting vehicle recovery dio. Thanks
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013 - 03:31 AM UTC
The device I am talking about is shown here mounted on the side of a Diamond T Holmes Wrecker.



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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013 - 04:22 AM UTC
Pix from the Mirror Models web site:
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Posted: Monday, December 30, 2013 - 05:15 AM UTC
NEW QUESTION: Can anyone suggest a source for a good quality fifth wheel for a semi-tractor in 1/35th scale?

The last one I got came off a die-cast truck toy but I cannot remember the brand.

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Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 - 04:06 AM UTC
Something we have not really touched much on - The CCKW SWB Wrecker Conversion: