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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 03:24 AM UTC
A review of the new sandbags from Juweela, a new company out of Germany.

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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 03:43 AM UTC
What are the bags filled with, sawdust, or something similar which will absorb the water/glue mix? Can the end be crimped to simulate where the bag is tied closed to make it look more like a real sandbag? I suppose thread could be used to tie one end.
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 12:36 PM UTC
The bags are filled with something like a fine ground rubbery material, that is the best way I can describe it. It doesn't seem to leave any kind of dust or powdery substance behind so I don't believe it is organic. It would be tricky to tie off one end but it could probably be done, you do get a bit extra material on each end that you are supposed to trim off.
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 02:05 PM UTC
The problem I see with these bags they appear to come prefilled or else the fellow filling them sewed them closed when he was done. I have filled enough to know that the end doesn't get sewed up. You tie the end after you finished filling it so the way they are they just do not look right. One end should be tied closed giving you a kind of hand hold to grab a hold of after filling and when loading or unloading. Those bags are not a favorite memory of mine
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2013 - 05:10 PM UTC
They look like pillows from a queen size bed.
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Posted: Monday, November 18, 2013 - 11:20 AM UTC

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The problem I see with these bags they appear to come prefilled or else the fellow filling them sewed them closed when he was done. I have filled enough to know that the end doesn't get sewed up. You tie the end after you finished filling it so the way they are they just do not look right. One end should be tied closed giving you a kind of hand hold to grab a hold of after filling and when loading or unloading. Those bags are not a favorite memory of mine



Agree completely.

They also look underfilled.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 04:40 AM UTC
I used then om the top row of this SAP.

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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:15 AM UTC

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I used then om the top row of this SAP.

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And, to tell you the truth, I don't think they look nearly as good as the ones across the trench mouth below.

BTW, this isn't to crap on Juweela or anything, ya can't hit every product out of the park. Their bricks and the like are really good, I have several sets to review for AMPS and I'm impressed.

The sandbags? Not so much. Full marks for innovation, but a little short on the implementation. For me. Others may like them a lot and more power to those that do.

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 08:28 AM UTC
Perhaps I am being over simplistic but how hard is it to tie one end off yourself before wetting and placing them.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 09:21 AM UTC

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Full marks for innovation, but a little short on the implementation.



I agree on that. I like the idea, but the results don't look realistic enough for me.

Mario
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 05:11 PM UTC
No one ever fold the top underneath?

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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 09:51 AM UTC

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No one ever fold the top underneath?

Al




We often had to in my mob. Whilst the sand bags would be tied for transporting (i.e. man-packed) into place they were often then untied and the open end folded over. I always thought it was just to get the (hated) bags to look "Regimentally" uniform and RSM acceptable.

There was a more serious reason though, the tied end could leave a weak spot between the bags where a round could get through. Folded over they were much tighter and fitted together more like bricks.

I wasn't around in WW1 but I did do this stuff a long time ago...

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Posted: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 - 10:30 AM UTC
Hi Murdo,

Ditto, we always did that, I don't recall sting being part of the task. I thought it was just me and a fading memory lol.

Al
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