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Tasca M4A1 Grizzly Guardian
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2018 - 02:16 PM UTC
From what I have seen complete butchering is you thing... I saw butcher away. I just finished a slightly screwy dragon E8... long story but done.
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Posted: Friday, November 09, 2018 - 10:27 AM UTC
@Russ - they got bought out by a company that favours a subscription business model, so inevitable yes.

@Easy8 - Gardening season is well and truly over yes, the nights are drawing in and the temperature is plummeting here in good old blighty, I've been mulling over some ideas with regards to a 1946 'what if' M4A3E8 with a heavily modified upper and lower hull, and a rear end very much like a Hellcat

I might put it into this build log mixed in with the Grizzly stuff as it involves completely butchering a Tamiya kit


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Posted: Monday, November 05, 2018 - 06:00 PM UTC
Taking a peak at the calander I notice that is should be near the end of gardening season in jolly ole England. Seems to me some one should find his little blue knife and he and snuggles work on a grizzly again... or has work progressed and the hosting site is the issue?
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Posted: Monday, November 05, 2018 - 12:54 AM UTC
Lovely, but inevitable.
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Posted: Friday, November 02, 2018 - 08:24 AM UTC

More bad news for anyone using free picture hosting sites...

Flickr are under new ownership and have announced a 1000 picture limit! (it used to be 1TB per user)

So I'm gonna guess that give it 6 months to a year and they will be asking for money

It's a slippery slope...

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Posted: Friday, August 24, 2018 - 09:33 AM UTC
Just had a visit with the Grizzly at Fagen air museum last weeeknd.
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Posted: Friday, August 24, 2018 - 08:30 AM UTC

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The Formations stuff is nice for sure. Also you can't beat TMD for everything Sherman



I think TMD do a T6 Sherman prototype (or used to, maybe a limited run?) Which I would love to build one day, it's a damn shame that Tasca/Asuka don't do one in plastic, but oh well, maybe one day...

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Posted: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 - 05:07 AM UTC
The Formations stuff is nice for sure. Also you can't beat TMD for everything Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 03:52 AM UTC
@Dan, Sorry I missed your post, what a beast indeed yes, you did a nice job with that restoration.


@Easy8

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I will start a build log of a jacked E8 kit with a scratch built hull.. who knows.



Well, if you are determined to go that route, then give me a few weeks and I should be able to post something that will be helpful maybe, somewhere I have some patterns for a M4A3E8 lower hull, I just need to find them, they got packed away in a box years ago, I shall hunt them down and then maybe post some pictures with dimensions on them.

And don't forget that Tasca/Asuka are still selling separate sprues I think, so you could just buy a lower hull from them and then just make it fit.


@Paul

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Hope to see this back one day



Hello Paul, probably when the weather turns, then I'll have more time available again for this, part of the problem is that I'm working on something else, a kinda 1946 'what if ' M4A3E8 evolved, with both scratched lower and upper hull (but don't tell Easy8, lol) there was a clue with the turret back on page 8 I think, when projects overlap, something always bites the dust, but anyway,

Mojo, someone should invent a little robot called mojo, who's sole purpose in life is to venture out into the big bad world and hunt down mojo, returning it to a found status




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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 - 05:01 PM UTC
Hope to see this back one day, good entertaining stuff. Nearly lost mojo on my takom king tiger a few times, try to get at least one bit done a day even painting one tiny piece just to keep it moving.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 - 12:41 AM UTC
Sad to see progress stop, even sadder to see that you are not planning on painting it. Will look foward to progresss when the seasons change and the bug to build returns. Untill then plant sunggles some cat nip and enjoy the out doors. Maybe when I get set up here (read if at this point) I will start a build log of a jacked E8 kit with a scratch built hull.. who knows.
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Posted: Monday, April 23, 2018 - 05:50 AM UTC

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Spring has sprung, updates will be very erratic and much shorter in length (probably a good thing) from this point onwards, I have gardening to do.



You know things are getting bad on a forum when you have to start quoting yourself, lol, but anyway, slight update on the above, this build log is shutting down, going into hibernation until I have time to work on it again, when that will be, God only knows...


I did at least finish my stand, well kinda, not really, I just put some feet on it, every stand needs some feet right?


Anyway,


Kharkov - "I'll get the lights, Snuggles."
Snuggles - "I'll try and shut HAL 9000 down Dad."
Kharkov - "Pull out the blocks, one at a time for dramatic effect."
Snuggles - "They're numbered Dad! What's the correct sequence?"
Kharkov - "Any order you like, That's just to make it look complicated..."
Snuggles - "What the f... Dad! He's singing Daisy Daisy..."
Kharkov - "He will do, It's a crappy Microsoft OS."
Snuggles - "He wants to do security updates!"
Kharkov - "Just hit cancel Snuggles."







Matt
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 10:43 PM UTC
Fromthe curved sponson lowers at the front it looks like an M4A1 hull, The big issue is the fact that the lower seems narrow compaired to the upper and the rear idler mounting is different (the way dragon made it) and I am not sure that there are the parts in the kit to put it together or not. I also noticed that the upper hull has pretty nasty sink marks along the side where the supports are cast on the inside... I hate sanding and filling.... maybe one of those heavy sand bagged tanks Patton loved so much.

PS. Here is me with my fingers crossed that your little blue knife runs off to only be found hours latter...
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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 01:28 AM UTC

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laugh now Matt



I did yes, quite a lot

First thing to check is that you have the revised upper hull, you need to look at the hull side plates where they join the rear plate, Dragon revised the rear plate angle, and when they did that they moved the weld bead/line, that left traces on the surface of the kit plastic, you should be able to spot it fairly easy.

Then you need to acquire a suitable lower hull (lol) or make one, and it really does depend on whether you think its worth it or not, the Dragon upper hull is not bad really to be honest, the cast portion is done very well, weld beads/lines are a little iffy I think (recessed) but its not too bad.

The way dragon do their M4A3E8 suspension it can be plonked straight onto a scratched lower hull if I remember correctly, that's probably not much help, but then I am still giggling slightly...

It does beg the question, what lower hull did you get in the box?

Matt

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Posted: Sunday, April 22, 2018 - 12:45 AM UTC
Ok so lets just start by saying I have a problem.... Went to the Seattle IPMS show this weekend. As they were annoucing the special awards I walked the few vendors that were left. Guess what, I found the dragon 2005 Dragon Expo M4A3E8 sherman sitting on a table. The vendor was asking $15 for it. Told me it was missing the metal barrel and brass ammo. The rest looked good... you know where this is going. So I bundled it with a late model AFV tiger. So we get the kit home and start looking into it. The sprues were in sealed bags and everything looked good...not so much. Seems that some one started it

So the biggest issue it the lower Hull (laugh now Matt) The hull in the kit has not been touched, the issue is it is not the right hull for the kit. So it looks like I be scratching a hull here. So I may have to borrow some of snuggles skillz here.

Why do I buy every E8 kit?? HELP!!!!
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Posted: Thursday, April 19, 2018 - 11:29 PM UTC
I am probably not going to do the cobra king, was thinking of trying my hand at some shell damage on the frontal armor of the jumbo. Still only a project in the back of my mind, with the kit on the shelf. I also have an E8 sitting next to it... surprise there huh? Might even get crazy and do a dio with the jumbo and an E8 and maybe a destroyed german AT gun that lost the duel with the jumbo... who knows.

It is funny, looking at those pics the first thing that went through my head as that they stole your stand. Though yours is just a touch more classy. Tell em if they keep stealing your stuff they will have to deal with an angry snuggles..
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - 04:25 AM UTC
The first photo of the Jumbo is taken at Camp Ripley, MN-I was slightly involved with it's restoration.
What a beast.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - 02:42 AM UTC

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I do have a tasca jumbo on the short list



Did someone mention Mr Jumbo...


A very nice picture, but badly cropped, that's not my fault, and why is a pick up truck on display next to a tank? only this could happen in America,..lol



Picture above, for a guess you're gonna have a go at this maybe? Good old Cobra King, a good picture because it shows that sometimes it is realistic to have the first road wheel sitting up/pressed up high, it does kinda depend on the terrain that the tank is sitting on, as in this example maybe, plus there is a lot of extra weight over the front on a Jumbo with all the added armour plates and the massively thickened FDA.



Picture above, rear bogie - angled suspension arms, middle bogie - slightly angled suspension arms, front bogie - flat suspension arms, maybe due to the extra weight putting pressure on old tired suspension, or they were like that when they rolled of the production line, but anyway...

They're copying my stand! The b**tards, everyone steals my work...


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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2018 - 05:09 AM UTC
Making a Stand (part one)

This I suppose could be described as very basic scratch building, or basic model making even, it does kinda depend on your views, and it has to be said that there is nothing hard or complicated about any of this, it's just cutting card, cleaning up edges and making things look nice and clean, no pencil marks, no rough edges, basic clean n tidy construction, and if you f**k it up, well it doesn't matter, so it's perfect practice for anyone who is thinking about doing some scratch building for the first time, or who has maybe just done a bit and needs more practice (and yes, that includes me)

Picture below left, the base, this is thick plastic card (2mm) with the corners cut off and two 'I' beams stuck to it, these are to act as rails, the angled corners keep things looking clean, picture below right, two planks of card (1.5mm) one with the corners cut off, and one with horrible pointy corners, If you don't need pointy corners, then cut them off, or round them off, it will always make things look a million times better.



Pictures above, next 'T' grooves (slots) are added so that the planks will just slide on and off the 'I' beams, why do it like this? Well, because 'reasons' that's why, this is simply done with plastic strips of different sizes , first 1.0x2.0mm and then 0.4x4.0mm layered on top, the top layer needs to be thin and bendy so that it will grip the underside of the 'I' beam which has an angled edge, and what we end up with is a plank of card that will slide on and off our rails.


Acorn Antiques (a UK only ref, sorry)


The PE tread plate is from Accurate Armour - https://accurate-armour.com/

Now PE tread plate needs to be added, this is a 4 bar type cut from a fairly big sheet, and it comes as new in a horrible looking golden colour which I really can't stand , so it needs to be given a nice 'antique' kinda look, first both strips are heated to cherry red then left to cool, this burns the surface which will then gain contrast, and removes the tension (springiness) from the metal, then we do the following -

1. Clean with rough wire wool and Jif, removes all the harshness from the tread plate, and makes one hell of a mess
2. Clean with fine wire wool and Jif, and washed with hot soapy water.
3. Polish with fine wire wool and Autosol metal polish, wash with hot soapy water.
4. Polish with a soft cloth and Autosol metal polish, another wash.

Picture above right and below, after all that messing around you get nice 'antique' looking PE tread plates that don't have that harsh new look, it's a lot of messing around just to slightly change the appearance of the metal, but I much prefer it looking this way.



Picture above, The PE tread plate is glued to the plastic planks with epoxy resin and left to set for an hour or two, the edges are then sealed with CA applied with thin wire, and this is important because the edges need to be dressed (that's dressed as in cleaned up, sanded, not put your socks on) If you don't seal down the edges then you will have one hell of a game dressing them, both sides are dressed with various grades of sandpaper glued to metal blocks (my metal squares)



Picture above left, the edges are then faced with 2.5mm angle strip, this covers the bare metal edge which is very
important, unless you fancy slicing your fingers open on bare metal edges, and they also sit just slightly proud of the tread plate which provides a nice visual effect, picture above right, then four little end caps/plates are added to seal in the ends of the tread plate and finish everything off, then simply slide the two planks onto the 'I' beams and it's job done, for now.



And after all that nonsense I have a simple, functional and clean looking stand for the Grizzly to sit on, and just like everything in this god damn build log it's not finished yet, it will be getting further work as time goes on, as and when I can be bothered to work on it, a bolt head theme will be developing I think.


Anyway,

Spring has sprung, updates will be very erratic and much shorter in length (probably a good thing) from this point onwards, I have gardening to do.


Kharkov - "Enya,..Snuggles?"
Snuggles - "One for the oldies Dad!"
Kharkov - "We are the 'oldies' now, Snuggles."
Snuggles - "Well then, words for the wise,..Dad"
Kharkov - "The more you have, the more you want?"
Snuggles - "And the more you want."
Kharkov - "The less you have."







Matt
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Posted: Thursday, April 12, 2018 - 09:44 AM UTC
Yes that video puts 1/35th into perspective, it clearly shows me and my failing eyes that I need a 1 to 1 scale E8... then my old back says "stick with the plastic stupid or I will go out" and the wife agrees.. oh well they get horrid gas mileage any way.

I do have a tasca jumbo on the short list so I will look at the way you both did the suspension and then screw mine up accordingly.
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Posted: Monday, April 09, 2018 - 07:58 AM UTC
Tasca Bogies (Handy hints and tips)

For anyone who might be currently working on some Tasca VVSS bogie units, complete with their foam based 'working' suspension system, here is a very good video by Paul Budzik, who it has to be said is a very talented model maker who goes out of his way to be very helpful with regards to hints and tips when building Sherman kits, mainly Dragon kits, but also Tasca and Tamiya related stuff.



He shows a much better way to do the foam pads that form Tasca's 'working' suspension, which is highly recommended, Tasca's foam pads are not brilliant to be honest, he also suggests the very same thing that I did with mine (back on page 4) which is to simply junk the foam and replace it with plastic card to in effect just forget about that 'working' nonsense and lock everything in place.

He also shows another way to put your wheels, suspension arms and return rollers in after the bogie unit has been glued together, it involves trimming back the locator stubs (and cutting them back at an angle) so that the parts can be kinda squeezed in afterwards, it can result in things being a little bit wibbly wobbly if you're not careful with the cutting, but it's another option, and a damn site easier than mine.

Paul Budzik - http://paulbudzik.com/index.html


VVSS Assembly (The real deal)

We spend so much time working in our good old 1/35th scale it's easy to forget just how big some of the parts are that go to make up a real Sherman bogie assembly, so here's a nice little video showing two guys putting one back together after the parts have been restored, the restoration is by the Museum of the American G.I. in College Station, Texas.



Kinda puts model making into perspective, lol




Matt
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Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2018 - 08:46 AM UTC

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I am still ogling that cast hull... just speaks to me



Well, you will be seeing a lot more of it later as it needs a little modification, more detail, and more stuff to go on it.

The plan is to use metal tracks yes, not many options track wise, they will hopefully be pinned together with steel or brass pins to keep them tight(ish) and the jig/stand thing is currently morphing into something else, and that is the next post




Matt
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Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2018 - 08:20 AM UTC
Looks like progress.. I am still ogling that cast hull... just speaks to me. I did expect the jig for the boogies to have some sort of addition to check the wheel.spacing... not that it is needed. Are you really going to use metal tracks??
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Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2018 - 01:40 AM UTC


Kharkov - "The Cage? Snuggles?"
Snuggles - "Hidden tracks Dad, tucked away at the end."
Kharkov - "A lesser travelled path? Snuggles?"
Snuggles - "Not so much a path, just a better way."
Kharkov - "You can't change the past Snuggles."
Snuggles - "Then why do you try?"





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Posted: Sunday, April 08, 2018 - 01:37 AM UTC


Picture above, Robin Hood is another fairly famous M4A1 Grizzly which is located at the Nationaal Bevrijdingsmuseum 1944-1945, in the Netherlands, and is part of the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry (Nottinghamshire Yeomanry) Memorial, this Grizzly has had a fairly adventurous history as she served with the Portuguese Army for a period of time before ending up back in the UK to be restored, I'm not sure who did the restoration (Bovington Tank Museum maybe?) and then finally shipped over to the Netherlands, the name Robin Hood comes from the Nottinghamshire Yeomanry Regimental HQ tanks.


Clementine

The first of many boring jobs was to clean up all the wheels and suspension arms (picture below) On the real thing all of the suspension parts are cast items, so you don't really want any harsh sharp edges I don't think, it all comes down to personal preference on how you prep plastic parts, me personally I can't stand harsh edges or seam lines on anything really, even if it is accurate, but anyway, the tyres have simply been scraped with a knife blade, another boring repetitive job.



Next job (picture above left) was to clean up, modify and fit all of the little rocker arms, these would normally be fitted when you glue the two halves of the Tasca bogie units together, because they locate on a bar which is up inside the bogie unit, but I didn't want these flapping around while I was doing modifications to the bogie ribs, so decided to convert them to clip on, this simply involved cutting out the top portion, but leaving enough plastic so that they in effect clip into place, as shown in the pictures.

Last job (picture above right) was to make a whole bunch of new spindle tubes to fit my brass spindles, these are made from plastic tube, spun in a Minicraft tool to achieve square ends, and drilled to be a tight fit on the spindles, you can drill out the standard Tasca spindle tubes, but you will be left with wafer thin plastic, and if you drill even slightly out of square and true you will be in big trouble. again all of this lot would normally be fitted when the bogies are glued together.





Pictures above, I have wheels on my wagon at long last, my spindle tubes are a little bigger than the Tasca ones, but it doesn't matter as you can hardly see them, and this way it all works out with the bogie assembly being a lot stronger, which is important as the model is getting handled a lot and will be getting metal tracks, at some point, It also took me forever to choose which wheels to use, I really couldn't decide, but welded spoke wheels is probably the better choice.


Anyway,

Kharkov - "Clementine? Snuggles?"
Snuggles - "I wish I was a little more,..delicate, Dad."
Kharkov - "So what have you broken now? Snuggles?"
Snuggles - "Broken,..that's,..such a harsh word."
Kharkov - "No, Snuggles, It's the correct word."
Snuggles - "It wasn't my fault Dad!"
Kharkov - "It never is."



Snuggles - "Fifty I'm gonna change my minds."





Matt