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Amusing Hobby: Mörser Bär
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 07:04 PM UTC


Kept under wraps until the opening of the 2017 Nurember Toy Fair, Amusing Hobby has revealed another paper panzer -- the 30.5cm Morser Bar. Here we see initial built-up photos. More details soon!

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Biggles2
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 09:22 PM UTC
Another "What-if-and-never-was"!
ironelf
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 09:41 PM UTC
Very cool looking vehicle. The tow cables look too thin though to tow that monster.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 03:08 AM UTC
Another silly attempt at entrancing us into buying something ridiculous. I'd prefer it greatly if the manufacturers spent as much time offering us better -and more reasonably priced- kits of vehicles that actually saw the light of day. Silly things we as a group can always kitbash. Wanna see my version of the helicopter/sub/spaceship that appeared in the Three Stooges Go To Mars? Same idea.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 03:10 AM UTC
I wonder how long it will take Wargaming to implement it in World of Tanks as a premium arty... largely to everyone's disgust, given the current attitude toward artillery in the game.
flippen_waffles
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:21 AM UTC
Im excited to see this kit. I have been looking for one ever since New Connection models had their resin kit. Nice break from all the king tigers, panzer iv's, shermans, Panthers, Mausen (plural for Maus, lol), etc. that keep on being released, and re-released in some cases.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:29 AM UTC
The set up on that vehicle is as ridiculous as putting a self propelled artillery piece in ambush scheme.

There's no room to handle the ammunition if it's closed top like that. And even less than no room for any ammunition. The concept is cool, but I would like to see panzer waffe '46 tanks that are practical !!!
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 01:53 PM UTC
Not my cup of tea but why not look a nice kit...
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 02:53 PM UTC
Not that I'll be getting one but some have missed the point, this was not your normal artillery it was an early (1943) plan for the Sturmtiger and was based on a Tiger I with leaf spring suspension not torsion bar. However it never left the drawing board.
This explains the enclosed crew compartment, as I'm sure you'd not want to be in an open crew compartment in a close quarters urban environment.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:24 PM UTC
Interesting subject. I have enjoyed Amusing Hobbys kits so far.
jon_a_its
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 05:05 PM UTC

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Panthers, Mausen (plural for Maus, lol)



Mäusen or Mäuse
ericadeane
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 07:05 PM UTC
The idea of an enclosed fighting compartment for SP Artillery was to give protection to the crew from enemy counter battery fire as the SPG scooted to the next location. If it were in an urban area, the entire unit would be in a VERY bad way if there were enemy infantry or vehicles nearby. That would be a total mis-use of this sort of weapon -- save for the occasional direct fire bunker busting role. It was a bombardment weapon -- not tasked with urban fighting where enemy infantry or AFVs could fire upon it
TigerTiger
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Posted: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:48 PM UTC
Roy, this weapon was to be used just like the Sturmpanzer IV and SturmTiger just check the max range of the gun - 3Km, it was to be assault artillery.
Taeuss
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:01 AM UTC
As to room inside an enclosed fighting compartment: admittedly its a larger shell, but how is this different than an M109? The shell is -undoubtedly- two-part with separate propellant charges, etc. So that makes sense. And only that....the rest is simply silly.
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Posted: Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 08:28 AM UTC
Built-up photos from Amusing Hobby:











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Posted: Sunday, February 26, 2017 - 02:37 PM UTC

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As to room inside an enclosed fighting compartment: admittedly its a larger shell, but how is this different than an M109? The shell is -undoubtedly- two-part with separate propellant charges, etc. So that makes sense. And only that....the rest is simply silly.



That's what I thought, but then I remembered seeing an M-109 in action once: Aren't they operating with open hatches in the back? It gives much more space to work the ammo and is still quick for the Crew to get in the vehicle and change position... I don't see those kinds of hatches on the Bär... but then again, the Sturmtiger also saw the light of day and worked (for the better or worse) somehow (with I think 6-7 rounds total when fully loaded?)


To the built-up pics: the tracks look a bit "off", especially in the rear section. But otherwise it looks nice (as a model kit I mean, the subject is obviously subject to debate )
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