The next E-100 kit from Amusing Hobby is one super heavy tank hunter.
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Amusing Hobby: Jagdpanzer E-100
tatbaqui
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#040
Joined: May 06, 2007
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Posted: Monday, August 14, 2017 - 05:07 PM UTC
The next E-100 kit from Amusing Hobby is one super heavy tank hunter.
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johhar
Joined: September 22, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 01:23 AM UTC
How good are Amusing Hobby kits? It looks cool but I've never built one of theirs before.
Scipio2010
#401
Joined: December 08, 2013
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 02:30 AM UTC
Ive built two of their kits and IMO they are solid with easy to follow instructions. The pioneer tools are terrible though, and I replaced them with surplus tools from Dragon kits. There are Voyager PE sets available for most of these kits.
Taeuss
Joined: January 03, 2016
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 06:42 AM UTC
Goofy but interesting, though I'm normally not much into paper panzers or Berlin '46 stuff.
Pongo_Arm
Joined: January 27, 2017
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 11:33 AM UTC
I have the Lowe kit, its simple and ok, but they put wet mess tracks on it instead of just a simple rubber band set that would be more in keeping with the quality of the rest of the kit.
Ramanathan
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Joined: March 21, 2007
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 11:44 AM UTC
It seems that World of Tanks users' number reached the level where the model firms find it worthy to release these never-existed vehicles. 
johhar
Joined: September 22, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 - 10:23 PM UTC
Forgive my ignorance, but what are wet mess tracks?
darklen
Joined: September 16, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 04:17 AM UTC
"Wet Mess" tracks refer to the overly complication of construction for the tracks. For example, their Panther II (KT Transport tracks) are 5 separate parts to get two workable links. Way easier ways to achieve good tracks without overly complicating it.
Taeuss
Joined: January 03, 2016
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 07:34 AM UTC
That's all in the pursuit of that meaningless "parts count" numbers that they all love to trumpet (pun intentional) about. Why not simply engineer a simple piece through slide-mold and be done with it? I'd rather fewer parts than the pointless over-complication that some companies seem to strive for!
Cantstopbuyingkits
Joined: January 28, 2015
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:01 PM UTC
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"Wet Mess" tracks refer to the overly complication of construction for the tracks. For example, their Panther II (KT Transport tracks) are 5 separate parts to get two workable links. Way easier ways to achieve good tracks without overly complicating it.
The real Panther II used more than that amount of parts for 2 links. I suggest you leave and go build something with wheels or even wings if you can't deal with the inconvenient truth about the full complexity of tracked running gear.
Bravo1102
Joined: December 08, 2003
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Posted: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 - 10:33 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text"Wet Mess" tracks refer to the overly complication of construction for the tracks. For example, their Panther II (KT Transport tracks) are 5 separate parts to get two workable links. Way easier ways to achieve good tracks without overly complicating it.
The real Panther II used more than that amount of parts for 2 links. I suggest you leave and go build something with wheels or even wings if you can't deal with the inconvenient truth about the full complexity of tracked running gear.
I for one agree with him. I did it for real and it was back breaking, tedious work. I don't want to repeat that m-fing experience on something 35 times smaller in an activity that is intended as a fun, even relaxing, pastime!
Besides, tanker bars, breaker bars and socket wrenches are one thing; tweezers, tedium and the carpet monster are quite another. One doesn't spend hours on the floor looking for lost end connectors on the real thing . Nor do you have to assemble all hundred odd links yourself on the real thing either.
Taeuss
Joined: January 03, 2016
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 02:09 AM UTC
Ya! What he said! (Chuckle) Seriously, they don't do it for accuracy, they do it for bragging rights on parts count. I've done lots of different tracks in differing mediums and there's well-engineered and then there's simply dumb. And I actually do build things with wings and wheels. Its all good. Got a VII C U-boat on the bench currently, though. More PE than you'd think.
hugohuertas
Joined: January 26, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 03:32 AM UTC
"the full complexity of tracked running gear"
I'm still laughing...
I'm still laughing...
Biggles2
Joined: January 01, 2004
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 03:53 AM UTC
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The real Panther II used more than that amount of parts for 2 links. I suggest you leave and go build something with wheels or even wings if you can't deal with the inconvenient truth about the full complexity of tracked running gear.
Now that's just uncalled-for nastiness!
laikneth
Joined: September 24, 2013
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:27 PM UTC
Hi guys,
No need to get worked up. I have the e100 flak 88 kit. I saw the tracks they are individual links and in two pieces. much alike their conqueror kit.
Its much simpler.
I think their panther ii tracks are complex not because they want parts count but rather they tried is that way to make the tracks workable.
Its just unfortunate that the panther ii track design called for it to me so complicated.
And yes i bulit their jagdpahther kit and used their tracks. Its a wee bit more tedious, took one day for one side. But the overall workable tracks looks ok on the fit.
Ken
No need to get worked up. I have the e100 flak 88 kit. I saw the tracks they are individual links and in two pieces. much alike their conqueror kit.
Its much simpler.
I think their panther ii tracks are complex not because they want parts count but rather they tried is that way to make the tracks workable.
Its just unfortunate that the panther ii track design called for it to me so complicated.
And yes i bulit their jagdpahther kit and used their tracks. Its a wee bit more tedious, took one day for one side. But the overall workable tracks looks ok on the fit.
Ken
laikneth
Joined: September 24, 2013
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Posted: Thursday, August 17, 2017 - 01:28 PM UTC
If you want a manufacturer who trumpets their parts count its gotta to be trumpeter kits....i find their kits overly engineered and detailed.
Cantstopbuyingkits
Joined: January 28, 2015
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 12:02 PM UTC
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The real Panther II used more than that amount of parts for 2 links. I suggest you leave and go build something with wheels or even wings if you can't deal with the inconvenient truth about the full complexity of tracked running gear.
Now that's just uncalled-for nastiness!
No, really. I'm sick of people who chose to model tanks whining about producers making a proper attempt to supply working tracks.
Invincible
Joined: May 03, 2017
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Posted: Friday, August 18, 2017 - 02:31 PM UTC
And they cram the box with bits you can't use- their E-10 has 4 options of tracks: early, late, or rubber band versions of each, and their best kit of the Abrams gives you 5 variants in one box.
Pongo_Arm
Joined: January 27, 2017
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Posted: Saturday, August 19, 2017 - 05:20 AM UTC
Sorry I was away.
The Lowe tracks are not engineered like the Tiger 2 tracks they are tying to represent. Where as the actual track are cast pieces held together by pins so that each track piece should actually be 1 piece that clicks into another piece. These are designed in an amusing way to have the two larger pieces held together by having the cleats as separate pieces that glue down over the pin to allow them to articulate. But there is almost no glue area and if you get to much you lock each one down...
As I said on a very very simple kit. I glued them together, but little cleats kept falling off and then in getting glued, locked a section down.
Very simple kit, should have very simple tracks. Wet mess.
Thanks all for the insults from heros who have likely not seen the kit.
The Lowe tracks are not engineered like the Tiger 2 tracks they are tying to represent. Where as the actual track are cast pieces held together by pins so that each track piece should actually be 1 piece that clicks into another piece. These are designed in an amusing way to have the two larger pieces held together by having the cleats as separate pieces that glue down over the pin to allow them to articulate. But there is almost no glue area and if you get to much you lock each one down...
As I said on a very very simple kit. I glued them together, but little cleats kept falling off and then in getting glued, locked a section down.
Very simple kit, should have very simple tracks. Wet mess.
Thanks all for the insults from heros who have likely not seen the kit.
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