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Roman Scorpion
kurnuy
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Posted: Sunday, April 15, 2018 - 05:24 AM UTC

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Nice !!! That really turned out great man !
J



Thanks J , i already started to fill the basket too in the meantime took the diorama outside to take a few pictures in the afternoon . I was curious to notice how the colors would look in broad daylight .


a few adjustments are required concerning the gloss , after that it's finished .

Thanks for watching .

Kurt
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 12:00 PM UTC
Nice !!! That really turned out great man !
J
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 09:14 AM UTC

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Cool, basket. I say fill'er up !
J



Hmmmm..... it's very tempting Jerry , thanks buddy for the follow up .

To all , the diorama is near completion . But before showing the update i must say that i did a terrible job adding the decals on the shields , nevertheless here are the pictures of the work i did today.




Thanks for watching .
Kurt
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 05:30 AM UTC
Cool, basket. I say fill'er up !
J
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Posted: Saturday, April 14, 2018 - 02:31 AM UTC
Smallish update of this project , if there are projectiles then there must be something to hold or contain them . The answer is yes of course , but what ? I've found the solution on the web , the Roman Legionnaires made baskets to put there arrows in , so i have made a basket in small scale . The materials that i used were a plastic cup ( cut out in half ) and some fine rope . After the scratch build it was painted with acrylics and dry brushed with pigments .

This is the result ,


I have two options , depicting an empty basket like the soldier holds the last arrow in his hands or i can fill it with arrows ? Don't know yet .

I am also thinking about to put a third figure to the scene which would be an ''Optio'' the second in charge of a Century ( the leader is a Centurion as you all know ) reason for that is because of the outfit which was for an Optio practically the same as a common Legionnaire except for the helmet . A Centurion wore a completely different outfit and armor .

Stay tuned

Thanks for watching .
Kurt
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Posted: Thursday, March 29, 2018 - 05:44 AM UTC

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Nicely done your ambush ......these Menapii never know what hit them.



Thanks , Menapii yes could be or even worse the Barbarians and the downfall of the Roman Empire .

Kurt
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Posted: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 - 09:23 AM UTC
Nicely done your ambush ......these Menapii never know what hit them.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - 06:17 AM UTC

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Very very cool. Nice progress. I think the hair on his arms is about all you can expect in this scale.
J



Thanks Jerry , i agree with you unfortunately there's no aftermarket in this large scale , some different heads with facial expressions for example would be a very welcome item in my opinion . Maybe someday ....?
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Posted: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 - 06:11 AM UTC

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Kurt, it looks very nice! Good scene and display.



Thank you Nacho for the visit and comments , appreciated !
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2018 - 10:36 AM UTC
Very very cool. Nice progress. I think the hair on his arms is about all you can expect in this scale.
J
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2018 - 08:17 AM UTC
Kurt, it looks very nice! Good scene and display.
kurnuy
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Posted: Monday, March 26, 2018 - 07:04 AM UTC
Thanks Tim for the thoughts and sorry for my very late reply . Not convinced however about using washes i"m a little bit afraid that the outcome will look like the guy has tattoos on his arms and legs . Which is perfectly fine for me in normal live ,but in Roman time ?

In the mean time , a picture of the diorama . However it's not finished yet but it gives you a ''pretty good'' idea how the scene looks like .

Thanks for watching everyone .

Kurt

Ow before i forget , i have made the arrow a lot smaller .
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 09:22 PM UTC
Hi Kurt, not bad at all – from a normal distance it should look fine & varies the skin tone well – I’d temporarily forgotten this is big scale so it is more of a thing than at 1/35. The only idea I’ve had (which may well be useless) is applying the hair-tone with a very fine sponge – maybe 2 or 3 dilute washes to control it better & so you don’t get a hard edge? I’m not trying to make futile work for you, as you speculated before they may well have shaved their body hair off - we’re possibly both thinking of a Greek or Roman statue of an athlete scraping himself with a strigil, maybe it was the common fashion & body-hair thought of as barbarian?
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Posted: Monday, February 26, 2018 - 08:56 AM UTC
Hi everyone ,

okay , i've tried to paint hair on the arms and legs of one Roman Legionnaire . The guy has a beard and body hair , he looks older than the other one with the arrow in his hands . The paint i have used was watercolor + a fine brush and applied in very small strokes . it went really well to my surprise . I show you a picture .


His legs are also done by the way so he looks a lot older than the other one .
Any thoughts by this ?
Thanks ,

Kurt
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 05:58 AM UTC

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Very nicely done Kurt, more skin to get right than usual & you nailed it. They don’t need it, but I started wondering whether anyone’s attempted body-hair and how convincing it was/is? Painting it would be liable to just look like dirt/smudges but I can’t think of a super-fine material that would work either.



A fellow modeler named Andrew Argent painted some hairy arms and it was scary real looking. He posts on FB and also now works for a model products company as a side line.
J



Thanks Tim and Jerry for your replies .

* Tim , well to be honest i was thinking about the same issue , do they need some more body hair ? Like on their arms and legs ? Or was it common in ancient Roman time that men removed their body hair ? Anyways to get to to the point that Jerry mentioned , it must be extremely difficult to paint body hair on a figure . You could end up with a figure that looks more like a chimpanzee if you know what i mean .

Let's see what i can do , the left Roman has a beard by the way but you can't see it on the photo .

Thanks guys for the thoughts .

Kurt
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Posted: Sunday, February 25, 2018 - 02:11 AM UTC

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Very nicely done Kurt, more skin to get right than usual & you nailed it. They don’t need it, but I started wondering whether anyone’s attempted body-hair and how convincing it was/is? Painting it would be liable to just look like dirt/smudges but I can’t think of a super-fine material that would work either.



A fellow modeler named Andrew Argent painted some hairy arms and it was scary real looking. He posts on FB and also now works for a model products company as a side line.
J
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Posted: Saturday, February 24, 2018 - 10:38 PM UTC
Very nicely done Kurt, more skin to get right than usual & you nailed it. They don’t need it, but I started wondering whether anyone’s attempted body-hair and how convincing it was/is? Painting it would be liable to just look like dirt/smudges but I can’t think of a super-fine material that would work either.
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 07:53 PM UTC
Thanks Jerry , appreciated .
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 09:46 AM UTC
Lookin good man ! Nice change of pace !
J
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Posted: Friday, February 23, 2018 - 09:37 AM UTC
Hello everyone ,

the two figures or let's say the servants of the Scorpion / Ballista are almost finished . I have to think about the lay out of the diorama . Anyways here are the two actors , on the left side the gunner and the loader on the right side .


Thanks for watching ,
Kurt
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Posted: Friday, January 12, 2018 - 12:05 PM UTC
Okay new update everyone ,

the first Legionnaire is almost done , i just have to finish the sandals .





Thanks for watching and i'll be back with more updates when i start to build the diorama .
Kurt
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 10:27 AM UTC

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Nice job! I would be launching toothpicks, at my cat.



Thanks for the compliment , be aware that your cat doesn't transform into a tiger if you shoot toothpicks at her .

Kurt



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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 08:40 AM UTC

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Nice job! I would be launching toothpicks, at my cat.



Thanks for the compliment , be aware that your cat doesn't transform into a tiger if you shoot toothpicks at her .

Kurt
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 06:02 AM UTC
Nice job! I would be launching toothpicks, at my cat.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 05:01 AM UTC
Hi guys , thanks for the visit and the kind words .

* Tim , yes in fact it's between a scorpion and ballista , both use the same technique . The scorpion was used as a precision weapon and a ballista to break the defence walls . You can compare them respectively like a machinegun and mortar .


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I remember seeing a photo in a Roman archaeology book years ago of one of these bolts embedded in the spine of an unfortunate victim…entering from the front.

I know that too , if i'm right it was a discovery in Great Britain of the remains of a Celtic warrior . It is believed that the poor guy was killed by a scorpions dart .

*Cheyenne ,

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the toothpick tosser is excellent

Thanks man , maybe i can make a dozen of them and sell it to restaurants or something ??? Imagine a bunch of people sitting on a large table and the lady on the other side of the table asking for a toothpick , all they need to do is to take the little scorpion and shoot the toothpick to her . what a great idea ?

Kurt