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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 08:38 PM UTC
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Hi! Do you know if anyone makes the horse-drawn Limbers for the DRAGON sIG.33 and the AFV CLUB leFH 18 kits?
Just came across this cast metal one from Hinchliffe. I don't know what gun it's designed for... It's OOP though :
H.P.
I think it was meant for the wooden-wheeled s.IG33..?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 08:46 PM UTC
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It sure is a lot of work tackling the detailing on a horse drawn wagon ...
The extra work is the pleasure in executing it for some of us...
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Posted: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 - 09:39 PM UTC
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
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bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 04:34 AM UTC
Wow, thanks, mon ami. That's a lovely horse set. WW1 or WW2? The French 75 was used in both conflicts, and the rubber wheels confused me.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 04:49 AM UTC
I guess it's OK for WW2. The pictured "75" is fitted with a "train rouleur" which enabled towing by a truck or an artillery tractor without removing the WW1-vintage wooden wheels, like in this period picture :
The "train rouleur" :
Of course, horses were still used in 1940 as well with the "canon de 75"... :
http://www.atf40.fr/ATF40/divers/RAD.pdfH.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
bill_c
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Posted: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 - 11:30 AM UTC
Merci milles fois.
I love the set but it would be about 150 Euros with both caissons and the gun.
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 08:27 AM UTC
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Merci milles fois.
I love the set but it would be about 150 Euros with both caissons and the gun.
I guess you could save a few bucks using (and detailing...) the old
RPM 75mm Modèle 1897 gun kit 
There's another one released by TOM Modellbau. Both will require some TLC....
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
Overijssel, Netherlands
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 06:43 PM UTC
Thanks for this nice picture.
But.....
Where to buy it if you can‘t speak or read Russian language?
Seems to be just fun to build this small piece.
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 07:36 PM UTC
I think most armies except US and british were mostly horse-drawn. Even russians had horse-drawn wagons still in use in Berlin 1945. And germans were allways lacking oil, so horse-drawn was the only alternative.
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Posted: Thursday, January 17, 2019 - 08:25 PM UTC
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Where to buy it if you can‘t speak or read Russian language?
Seems to be just fun to build this small piece.
I guess it
should be possible to order directly from them...
http://www.modelstroy.ru/article/view/197 http://www.modelstroy.ru/sbornie_modeli/nabory1/25119/But it looks like the kit is not available yet..... ("Пока нет в наличии")
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 12:14 AM UTC
Italeri makes a injected plastic 1/35 scale mule-drawn breda AA gun.
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 01:26 AM UTC
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That has straight away become my favourite kit box top art ever. At least he looks like he made some good friends before he goes off to his - er - uncertain future on that perfect summer day. The pity of it...
However, seeing the size of the roosters in his village I would prefer to leave as well!
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 01:36 AM UTC
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 02:27 AM UTC
"According to the British standard, fully grown Leghorn cocks weigh 3.4 kg (7.5 lb)"
Quote from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leghorn_chicken Compare with feral cats (not the overfed house cats but cats who have to find their own food)
"The Boston Cat Hospital weighed trapped feral cats, and found the average feral adult male to weigh 4 kg (9 lb), and average adult female 3 kg (7 lb)."
From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat0.6 kg difference and the rooster has them evil looking spurs, flapping wings and a [auto-censored]load of attitude ...
/ Robin
In memory of Al Superczynski:
"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to....
and the critics will flame you every time"
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 02:35 AM UTC
The rooster pictured in the box art appears to be perched on the fence in the background. If so, it's
much bigger than a cat, whatever the cat
H.P.
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Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 02:43 AM UTC
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Hi! Do you know if anyone makes the horse-drawn Limbers for the DRAGON sIG.33 and the AFV CLUB leFH 18 kits?
Just came across this cast metal one from Hinchliffe. I don't know what gun it's designed for... It's OOP though :
And take a look at the one scratchbuilt by Jerry
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/175407&ord=0&page=1
H.P.
The Hinchcliff peice here is for the 105mm howitzer and the SiG 33. Of all the kits listed in the posts above the best ones are the Riich ones,IMHO,
Thanks Henri,for including my humble effort here. I haven't seen that in a while!
I actually have the master patterns available here for a manufacturer to put into production but there has been no interest in it. Sorry. I myself,will not deal with pouring resin any more.
J
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 02:48 AM UTC
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Thanks Henri,for including my humble effort here. I haven't seen that in a while!
You're welcome Jerry. Time's flying for sure...
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 03:26 AM UTC
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The rooster pictured in the box art appears to be perched on the fence in the background. If so, it's much bigger than a cat, whatever the cat
H.P.
Weight doesn't say everything about fluffy objects like birds
The feathers add a lot of volume and the skeleton bones of birds are less solid than for land animals.
A leghorn rooster standing upright reaches close to 60 cm.
Here is a video of a large Brahma rooster who reaches 85 cm ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWSrXUQNCtg / Robin
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"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to....
and the critics will flame you every time"
Rhone, France
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 04:01 AM UTC
Tehran, Iran 1941 :
AA configuration :
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
Rhone, France
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2019 - 06:55 AM UTC
A Polish version of the Tachanka (Taczanka wz.36) was in use in 1939 :
https://forum.dobroni.pl/f/taczanka-wz-36/25758 Talking about WW2 Polish horse-drawn weapons, here are two 1/35 scale sets released by S-Model :
Bofors wz.36 37mm anti-tank gun (for about $22.00...)
Ckm wz.30 machine-gun
H.P.
"Find the Bastards, then Pile On"
Col. George W.Patton III 's standing order for the troopers of the 11th Armoured Cavalry Regiment
