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Posted: Tuesday, October 08, 2019 - 11:58 PM UTC
Who Will Build Light Air-Portable Trucks For The Army?
Auto giant General Motors is the outsider in a competition against two teams of companies with decades of defense experience: Oshkosh-Flyer and Polaris-SAIC.

By SYDNEY J. FREEDBERG JR. for "Breaking Defense" Online Magazine
October 08, 2019 at 6:13 PM


WASHINGTON: Three very different teams are vying to build the Army’s Infantry Squad Vehicle, a truck tough enough to parachute out of an airplane and then drive away cross-country with nine heavily armed infantrymen. By Nov. 13th, each team owes the Army two vehicles for testing, with the winner getting a contract for 651 ISVs next year.


Let’s meet the players.


GM Defense offering for the Infantry Squad Vehicle - General Motors photo



The Flyer-Oshkosh team’s proposed Infantry Squad Vehicle - Oshkosh photo

The Oshkosh-Flyer team is the closest thing to an incumbent in the competition. The Army had earlier picked the Flyer-72 as an interim air-droppable transport, the A-GMV, and Flyer is offering an upgraded version for the follow-on program, ISV. Actual mass production will be done by Oshkosh, which makes a host of Army trucks — most prominently, the beefed-up successor to the Humvee, the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV), which the Army and Marine Corps plan to buy over 50,000 of in the coming decades.

What’s more, Oshkosh plans to build the 5,000-pound ISV on the same assembly line as all its other vehicles, from the 14,000-lb JLTV to 10-ton FMTV dump trucks. (The earlier version of the Flyer-72 was mass-produced by General Dynamics). The ISV will be the lightest vehicle on the Oshkosh line, VP George Mansfield told me, but the company is confident it can build the air-droppable trucks more affordably than Flyer could — and at least as well. In fact, Mansfield said, he expects the Oshkosh-built version to be more reliable. That’s in part because of Oshkosh’s manufacturing expertise — it won the JLTV contract in large part because its offering broke down less than half as often as uparmored Humvees — and in part because of Flyer’s extensive field experience with the earlier versions built for the Army and Special Operation Command.

As a team, Mansfield told me, “we’ve learned a lot about reliability, we’ve learned a lot about life-cycle cost, that now we can take here at Oshkosh with our extensive knowledge of all the other product lines we sell to the Army.”


Polaris and SAIC

Polaris and SAIC both have plenty of defense experience. Polaris’s DAGOR did lose the earlier A-GMV contest to Flyer, but numerous DAGOR variants are in widespread service with Special Operations Command, the 82nd Airborne Division (shown in the video above), Canada, and other foreign customers the company can’t disclose.

“The DAGOR is already certified” — by the Army itself — “for all of the transport requirements that the Army is looking for, whether that’s internal air transport, sling-load transport, or air-drop,” Polaris VP Jed Leonard told me. And each of those prior customers required tweaks to the platform or special mission equipment — heavy weapons, sensors, radios — that the DAGOR could easily accommodate.

Integrating such high-tech kit is SAIC’s core competency. While not a manufacturer itself, SAIC has done decades of integration work for the military, most extensively on the MRAP program, fitting other companies’ vehicles with the sophisticated electronics that turn a truck into a weapons system. It also provides extensive maintenance and other support worldwide.

The two companies have worked together on and off, on small projects, for years, as various customers bought Polaris vehicles and then asked SAIC to equip them for specific military missions. But the current partnership is a big step up for both.


The Chevrolet Colorado, the basis of GM’s Infantry Squad Vehicle offering - General Motors photo

The odd man out is GM Defense, which giant General Motors created — in a sense, re-created — not quite two years ago after selling off most of its defense programs back in 2003. GM Defense president David Albritton just came aboard a year ago and has spent much of his time working with “Mother GM” on potential joint projects and spin-offs, from self-driving car technology to hydrogen fuel cells, he told me in an interview. “I’m not reporting any revenues at this point,” he said, although GM Defense does already have some contracts he can’t disclose.

GM’s offering is the only contender without a prior track record in the military. But their ISV is derived from the Chevrolet Colorado, of which US customers have bought more than 100,000 a year of since 2016, giving GM staggering efficiencies of scale no competitor can match. Specifically, the GM ISV a beefed-up, militarized version of the Colorado’s offroad racing variant, the ZR2, with which it shares 70 percent of the same parts — parts that are available from Chevy dealers worldwide. GM builds over 10,000 ZR2s a year: a rounding error for General Motors but a megaprogram for the Army.

GM’s scale advantage is not just in production and parts. It’s also in engineering. The company spends over $7 billion a year on R&D, Albritton told me, and its ISV offering includes advanced suspension systems like jounce shocks and dynamic spooling. GM’s challenge is overcoming its inexperience in the defense sector — especially, proving it can integrate military electronics onto its civilian-derived vehicle.


Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. graphic from US Army data
LRPF: Long-Range Precision Fires. NGCV: Next-Generation Combat Vehicle. FVL: Future Vertical Lift. AMD: Air & Missile Defense. SL: Soldier Lethality. SOURCE: US Army.


The Big Picture

Overall, ISV is an especially interesting competition because none of the contenders is a classic defense prime:

Oshkosh and Polaris both have lots of civilian customers alongside their extensive military business.
Flyer is a subunit of a modest aerospace and defense components-builder called Marvin Group.
SAIC is a systems engineering and service firm rather than a traditional Original Equipment Manufacturer.
And GM of course is one of the biggest civilian manufacturers in the country. “We make upwards of nine million cars a year,” Albritton told me, each put together out of roughly 30,000 different parts.
Compare and contrast the Army’s Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle program, which is de facto down to a single competitor — defense industry stalwart General Dynamics (which bought GM’s previous defense business back in 2003). ISV shows the kind of variety that the Army wants to encourage and needs to infuse innovation and competition into its programs.

Yes, at 651 trucks — at least, in the initial 2020 contract — this is a modest program in both size and technological ambition. It’s easily overshadowed by the hypersonic missiles, high-speed aircraft, and robotic tanks of the Army’s Big Six priorities. By contrast, for the predecessor competition (the one Flyer won) back in 2015, we ran eight stories in three months because there was so little else the cash-strapped and acquisition challenged Army was buying at the time.

But the Infantry Squad Vehicle is still an important piece of the larger Army puzzle. The Army’s infantry brigades — especially its 82nd Airborne parachutists — are its most strategically deployable units, easily packed into aircraft and flown around the world overnight, while heavy armored forces cram two tanks into one C-17 or, more often, go by ship. But once the infantry arrives, it moves on foot. (Although we bet everyone in the 82nd remembers being called a “speed bump” in this Defense Science Board study.)

The idea of ISV is a troop transport light enough to be air-dropped or, more often, delivered by helicopter. That way, the troops can land a long distance from their target — specifically, far enough their transport planes or helicopters aren’t shot down by anti-aircraft missiles — and then advance quickly overnight before attacking on foot at dawn.

We expect to see all three competing vehicles on the show floor at the Association of the US Army megaconference next week.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 - 02:16 AM UTC
Thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 - 02:19 AM UTC
I'm curious if GM might 'recivilianize' their entry - I bet there are plenty of folks who'd be interested in a slightly-less-skeletal version of that truck for hunting or (more likely) looking 'cool' around town.
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Posted: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 - 05:18 AM UTC
I agree with you but if it were to happen I would hope the story plays out better than that of the Hummer H3 - nothing but a pretty boy sheet metal copy (sort of) of the real Hummer AND a copy that shares nothing with the original vehicle except the name.
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 11:23 AM UTC
If the Big G is gonna start their ISV project using a Colorado as a base I hope they reinforce the frame! The problem seems to always involve towing a small trailer using a truck with an after market lift kit and slightly larger tires.







Sorry Bow Tie lovers (I drove a Suburban for years!)
I hated posting this but it has now happened to more than just the one guy.

As to the top and bottom most photos Chevy says the trailer tongue load weight was 100 lbs. over the factory stated maximum and the tires are one inch larger diameter than factory specs, so the answer is no to covered warranty repairs here!
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Posted: Thursday, October 10, 2019 - 01:25 PM UTC

Quoted Text

If the Big G is gonna start their ISV project using a Colorado as a base I hope they reinforce the frame! The problem seems to always involve towing a small trailer using a truck with an after market lift kit and slightly larger tires.







Sorry Bow Tie lovers (I drove a Suburban for years!)
I hated posting this but it has now happened to more than just the one guy.

As to the top and bottom most photos Chevy says the trailer tongue load weight was 100 lbs. over the factory stated maximum and the tires are one inch larger diameter than factory specs, so the answer is no to covered warranty repairs here!



It's not just towing that will destroy a Colorado. My ex-sis-in-law had one of the 2015 Mitsubishi crossovers and was rear ended by a total stock brand new Colorado. I got on scene about the time the police did and saw that the Colorado was buckled same place as the one in the picts. Only one side the frame was completely pinched and had snapped. It was a low speed hit that only dented the rear hatch on the Mitsubishi. It was a write off while the ex-in-law's only had to have the hatch replaced. No airbags went off in either vehicle.

About a year later I watched somebody backing up a Colorado in a grocery store parking lot. They didn't look behind them and they hit a pickup that was also backing out behind it. Again a totally stock Chevy. The rear bumper went down while the front of the bed lifted, bending the frame behind the cab. The other truck had a damaged rear bumper and dented tail gate.

I lost all respect for Chevy's after that. Except the Camaro.
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Posted: Monday, October 14, 2019 - 12:02 PM UTC
It sure beats walking although I am surprised that the U.S. Army doesn't include corner Smoke Grenade launchers as standard for some screening protection.

I'd prefer a light fast armored wheeled APC, but that's just me.
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Posted: Monday, October 14, 2019 - 01:45 PM UTC
I prefer an M1 towing a trailer with 9 seats.