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Hummer m1151 WIP
pascalbausset
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Moselle, France
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 07:02 AM UTC
Hi,
some pics from my current project :










Tamiya kit with Legend conversion kit.
More coming soon
jvazquez
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 08:11 AM UTC
Looking good!

I started mine last week. Just haven't gotten around to posting pics.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 09:05 AM UTC
Looks good!

The one problem I can see with this kit is the PE turret, where legends has made it easier to bend the front sections, those lines should not be there and thus will need filling or something.
Boggie
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 09:27 AM UTC
Rob
I agree, perhaps the scribed lines are supposed to be on the inside of the fold? The PE looks a bit slight for the armour too or is mine just too fat?
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Bill
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 11:45 AM UTC
Bill,
The set comes with etch in varying thicknesses. That said, I would have hoped that the turret etch was a little thicker. Its take a little to flex it, but it still looks thin and out of scale.
Same goes for the gunshield.
afv_rob
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 11:53 AM UTC
Legends seem to show the scribed lines on the outside on all their pics, so whether the plates can be made with the lines on the inside face I dont know. Its not a hard mistake to fix, but it is obvious and rather annoying.

As for the thickness of the turret, it does look a little too thin, but then I think these things are always difficult for the manufacturer to get right, either it looks too thin or too fat. I dont think anyones going to loose any sleep over the thickness.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 11:59 AM UTC
I went back and looked at the promo shots and the etched marks are on the outer wall of the turret, didn't notice that. Rob I think once everything is painted the thickness of the turret won't be so noticeable. I have myM1151 on it's way as we speak, can't wait.
Bill
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 03:26 PM UTC
I take a look for the kit thickness.

Due to pic the guner shield should be 0,25 mmm thick in 1/35. Legend give 0,20mm not really visible.

In real 0,20mm give 7mm.

So user from this OGPK give us the solution, but its sill a sensible information ?

Othervise the problem can be easily resolved with addition of a plastic sheet with appropriated thickness.

Now the scribed surface. I dont make a mistake, there is no solution to put it inside due to the windows implantation lines.

This surface can be filled later.

Just a reference pic


sopmod6
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 03:44 PM UTC
After looking at that pic, it seems this setup is not a thick as other ones ones, therefore the scale size could be appropriate. Close enough for me.
afv_rob
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Posted: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 10:50 PM UTC
I think these shields must come in varying thickness, if you look at the second picture Pascal posted, the shields on top with the windows are of a thinner thickness to the original armor shield that they are mounted onto, just look below the window line and you will see the original smaller gunners shield with thicker walls.
pascalbausset
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 03:52 AM UTC
A small update :





Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 04:35 AM UTC
well....

I got Mine been working on it... but I've noticed alot of short comings on this conversion... course most of this is with the turret section an the roof door...

I'd have thought they'd have done better research on this...


any other thoughts from all you humvee nuts out there ?

sopmod6
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 06:36 AM UTC
I'll give LEGEND credit for even making this set. I personally like it, even with its shortcomings. Sometimes all one can do is go with the references available on hand. It is up to the guys WHO know what they are, to provide all us uninformed modelers of
a kits shorcoming. Now, Get on the ball and start showing us whats amiss with the kit.
Boggie
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:11 AM UTC
Pascal
Perhaps some one can tell me different but didn't they stop using the stamped "AM General" on the rear tail gate with the M1114? Could be wrong I hope so. No matter though with all the gear stowed back there you'll never notice.
Here's a M1151 with Frag 6.
Regards
Bill
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Here's another pic of the details inside the turret.This is a Robert Skipper photo prior to his CD enterprise.
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Bill
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 11:36 AM UTC
Great thanks Bill for the heads up.

I never notice that the AM General words disapear. I try to correct this, but its not very important , due o the presence of the spare wheel.

I try to buy the Rob CD for improving my turret interior.

Thanks again..
Boggie
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 12:10 PM UTC
Pascal
Robert came to my rescue when I was struggling to make my turret, he's a very generous man and he puts together a worth while CD, worth every cent. I watch this thread daily, keep on with the great work.
Bill
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pascalbausset
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Posted: Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 09:58 PM UTC
Hi
AM General logo is out!!



Boggie
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Posted: Monday, August 03, 2009 - 01:06 AM UTC
Pascal
Just sent you a truck load of bumper pictures and I wanted to post this close up of the rear tail gate to confirm that the AM General embossed logo has been eliminated.
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Good luck with the project.
Bill
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Posted: Monday, August 03, 2009 - 04:15 PM UTC

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Pascal
Robert came to my rescue when I was struggling to make my turret, he's a very generous man and he puts together a worth while CD, worth every cent. I watch this thread daily, keep on with the great work.
Bill




Pascal, excellent build so far!

Bill, thanks once again for the kind words and the heads up on Pascal. I haven't been on much lately, so have missed a lot. As for the HMMWV CD's, a few others such as Calvin have also expressed interest right now, but I have none in my possession. Unfortunately I took my Net Book instead of my laptop, so I don't have the capability to make more for a few weeks. Good news is that I still have a few CD's with me which include the M3A3 Bradley, armored HEMMT, and M1A2 SEP. Did yours make its way up there to you yet?
Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 01:13 AM UTC
Robert
No worries and no CD. I think the postal service has to wait for the first snowfall to get the dog teams to bring the mail in. As with the last one, it will come eventually.
Pascal, perhaps if you let us know what you need specifically we (the collective we) could help you out.
Regards
Bill
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 02:59 AM UTC
Some new pics, the front big bumper is done nearly the end :






More coming soon....
Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 03:34 AM UTC
Pascal
That was fast. Good use of the Blast (?) Rhino too, look very sweet. I can't see if the upper surfaces of the ram bumper has the anti slip diamond pattern sheet on it? You can see it in the photo attached.
Frenchy just emailed me a link to these photos which may help you with M1151 images
http://maquettegarden.free.fr/Vehicules%20Modernes/Hummer%20Mentors%20ANA/index.xml
I have my eye on a few when my kit comes in.
Regards
Bill
Edit.I thought to myself that having the Rhino in front of the ramming bumper would make the bumper redundant but there a re lot of pictures with this combination.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 03:38 AM UTC
Good post Bill! I can always use more ideas for future builds.
Boggie
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 03:42 AM UTC
Arnold
No problem, thank Frenchy.
How are you finding the M1151 Legend kit, it is serving your needs?
Regards
Bill
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Posted: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 04:40 AM UTC
Its a very nice set with more pieces than expected, but Ive got boxes made for everything already, you know? The p-etch is the dilemma though...thats a headscratcher.
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