Hi all,
I started White 666 from Hobby Boss. I make of full engine and compartment and two new wheels sets.
Miloslav
I add first photos later.
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Whitte 666 w/engine build
bulivyf
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Posted: Monday, December 16, 2013 - 07:05 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 09:03 AM UTC
At first seeing the model nicely prepared, but simple enough in some parts. This time Hobby Boss poorly measured real truck. Model is much smaller and corresponds to the scale 1/37 in length and wheelbase.
Here are the dimensions.
Wheelbase 185 inch = 4688 mm = (1/35) 1339 mm - model: 1270 mm
Lenght 24ft 1 inch = 7340.6 mm = (1/35) 2097 mm - model: 1988 mm
I have long waited for a plastic model of this type, but I was somewhat disappointed.
Here are a few photos of the building.
Here are the dimensions.
Wheelbase 185 inch = 4688 mm = (1/35) 1339 mm - model: 1270 mm
Lenght 24ft 1 inch = 7340.6 mm = (1/35) 2097 mm - model: 1988 mm
I have long waited for a plastic model of this type, but I was somewhat disappointed.
Here are a few photos of the building.
Wierdy
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 06:23 AM UTC
Hey Miloslav !
I've finally found a blog on a kit I want so bad ! And what a blog it is ! Hope you'll show your wheels and engine in detail as you did with HET (a very informative thread BTW).
As for size inaccuracies mentioned, maybe it is possible to improve the issue by inserting spacers into the frame ?
Waiting for updates, cheers, Paul
I've finally found a blog on a kit I want so bad ! And what a blog it is ! Hope you'll show your wheels and engine in detail as you did with HET (a very informative thread BTW).
As for size inaccuracies mentioned, maybe it is possible to improve the issue by inserting spacers into the frame ?
Waiting for updates, cheers, Paul
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 08:01 AM UTC
If those discrepancies are correct, HB screwed the pooch royally. That's a 70mm difference in wheelbase and a 110mm difference in overall length, making the vehicle over 4" too short.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 09:09 AM UTC
Miroslav, how's the width? From the looks of it, everything is in proportion, so it should be significantly under 69.6mm.
Your first photo, however, looks like it is nearly 21cm long, which would scale out correctly for 35th.
Your first photo, however, looks like it is nearly 21cm long, which would scale out correctly for 35th.
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Posted: Friday, December 20, 2013 - 10:05 AM UTC
Model is shortly. I continue build I prepare next measurement. I think that all model have scale 1/36,8. Framework is very nice, bed is very easy. Missing rear toolbox and front window.
I add next photos on weekend.
recommended
http://www.wheelsofvictory.com/index14.html
I add next photos on weekend.
recommended
http://www.wheelsofvictory.com/index14.html
bulivyf
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Posted: Saturday, December 21, 2013 - 08:44 AM UTC
First photo with engine prototype.
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Posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 - 05:41 PM UTC
Any updates?
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Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 - 06:43 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Any updates?
Here is small update.
I used wheels mix from my produce.
Miloslav
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Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 - 10:56 AM UTC
Hi guys!
Miloslav – that’s looking good! Love the wheels…
As for dimensions, I’ve just measured a few bits of my unassembled kit, and the results are better than I’d hoped. The overall result seems to be a near-perfect 1:35 scale, but the table is as follows:
Kit (mm) Scaled up to 1:1 Real thing (mm) Scaled down to 1:35
Wheelbase: 145.5mm (5096.5mm 1:1), 4699mm real (134.25mm 1:35)
Rear axles WB: 37mm (1295mm 1:1), 1320.8mm real (37.7mm 1:35)
Cargo box L (OA): 95mm (3325mm 1:1), ?? real (??)
Cargo box L (inside): 91.5mm (3202.5mm 1:1), 3352.8mm real (95.78mm 1:35)
Cargo box W: 70mm (2450mm 1:1), 2438.4mm real (69.66mm 1:35)
Length OA: 200mm (7000mm 1:1), 7340.6mm real (209.7mm 1:35)
The wheelbase is measured from front axle to rear axle, whereas the length from front axle to the central pivot of the rear bogie is 127mm – is this a source of confusion? The “real” measurements are taken from the following three websites:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/white666.htm
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234951817-white-trucks-in-british-service/
https://ia700408.us.archive.org/2/items/TM9-813/TM%209-813.pdf
Now the two oddities that stand out are the excess wheelbase (11mm too long? That’s 397.5mm or 15.65 inches!) and the short overall length (10mm too short?). Not sure how these happened, but I wonder if it’s a case of several mms at a few locations, rather than one big error. (Looks to me like the front axle is too far forward compared to the wheel arches, but moving the springs back by a chunk of the 11mm would affect the detail. The 6x4 version had a wheelbase of 220”, the crane 197”, so I wonder if they “averaged” the range 185-220” to use the same frame for all three versions? If they do, there will be other length issues…
Still, the extra wheelbase and short length aren’t too bad – it still looks like a White. Can’t wait to start assembling mine!
PS: despite repeated attempts to edit, the table of numbers refuses to accept any formatting!
Miloslav – that’s looking good! Love the wheels…
As for dimensions, I’ve just measured a few bits of my unassembled kit, and the results are better than I’d hoped. The overall result seems to be a near-perfect 1:35 scale, but the table is as follows:
Kit (mm) Scaled up to 1:1 Real thing (mm) Scaled down to 1:35
Wheelbase: 145.5mm (5096.5mm 1:1), 4699mm real (134.25mm 1:35)
Rear axles WB: 37mm (1295mm 1:1), 1320.8mm real (37.7mm 1:35)
Cargo box L (OA): 95mm (3325mm 1:1), ?? real (??)
Cargo box L (inside): 91.5mm (3202.5mm 1:1), 3352.8mm real (95.78mm 1:35)
Cargo box W: 70mm (2450mm 1:1), 2438.4mm real (69.66mm 1:35)
Length OA: 200mm (7000mm 1:1), 7340.6mm real (209.7mm 1:35)
The wheelbase is measured from front axle to rear axle, whereas the length from front axle to the central pivot of the rear bogie is 127mm – is this a source of confusion? The “real” measurements are taken from the following three websites:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/white666.htm
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234951817-white-trucks-in-british-service/
https://ia700408.us.archive.org/2/items/TM9-813/TM%209-813.pdf
Now the two oddities that stand out are the excess wheelbase (11mm too long? That’s 397.5mm or 15.65 inches!) and the short overall length (10mm too short?). Not sure how these happened, but I wonder if it’s a case of several mms at a few locations, rather than one big error. (Looks to me like the front axle is too far forward compared to the wheel arches, but moving the springs back by a chunk of the 11mm would affect the detail. The 6x4 version had a wheelbase of 220”, the crane 197”, so I wonder if they “averaged” the range 185-220” to use the same frame for all three versions? If they do, there will be other length issues…
Still, the extra wheelbase and short length aren’t too bad – it still looks like a White. Can’t wait to start assembling mine!
PS: despite repeated attempts to edit, the table of numbers refuses to accept any formatting!
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Posted: Monday, January 13, 2014 - 07:09 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi guys!
Miloslav – that’s looking good! Love the wheels…
As for dimensions, I’ve just measured a few bits of my unassembled kit, and the results are better than I’d hoped. The overall result seems to be a near-perfect 1:35 scale, but the table is as follows:
Kit (mm) Scaled up to 1:1 Real thing (mm) Scaled down to 1:35
Wheelbase: 145.5mm (5096.5mm 1:1), 4699mm real (134.25mm 1:35)
Rear axles WB: 37mm (1295mm 1:1), 1320.8mm real (37.7mm 1:35)
Cargo box L (OA): 95mm (3325mm 1:1), ?? real (??)
Cargo box L (inside): 91.5mm (3202.5mm 1:1), 3352.8mm real (95.78mm 1:35)
Cargo box W: 70mm (2450mm 1:1), 2438.4mm real (69.66mm 1:35)
Length OA: 200mm (7000mm 1:1), 7340.6mm real (209.7mm 1:35)
The wheelbase is measured from front axle to rear axle, whereas the length from front axle to the central pivot of the rear bogie is 127mm – is this a source of confusion? The “real” measurements are taken from the following three websites:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/white666.htm
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234951817-white-trucks-in-british-service/
https://ia700408.us.archive.org/2/items/TM9-813/TM%209-813.pdf
Now the two oddities that stand out are the excess wheelbase (11mm too long? That’s 397.5mm or 15.65 inches!) and the short overall length (10mm too short?). Not sure how these happened, but I wonder if it’s a case of several mms at a few locations, rather than one big error. (Looks to me like the front axle is too far forward compared to the wheel arches, but moving the springs back by a chunk of the 11mm would affect the detail. The 6x4 version had a wheelbase of 220”, the crane 197”, so I wonder if they “averaged” the range 185-220” to use the same frame for all three versions? If they do, there will be other length issues…
Still, the extra wheelbase and short length aren’t too bad – it still looks like a White. Can’t wait to start assembling mine!
PS: despite repeated attempts to edit, the table of numbers refuses to accept any formatting!
It's the way you write. Here HB is a bit wrong. In model dimensions it does not look so bad, but the difference in real size is huge.
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Posted: Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 09:35 AM UTC
Next update:
the model is ready for painting.
the model is ready for painting.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 - 11:28 PM UTC
I really like how you filled in the backs of the battery box and tool box. (But of course I would since I felt I had to do the same thing!) Excellent job Miloslav!
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Posted: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 - 11:13 PM UTC
Miloslav, any new posts on this project?
Very interested in your further construction progress.
Photo comes to us by way of the tanksim.org.ru website>
Photo by Liejon Schoot
Very interested in your further construction progress.
Photo comes to us by way of the tanksim.org.ru website>
Photo by Liejon Schoot
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Posted: Monday, July 06, 2015 - 11:39 PM UTC
I noticed you modeled the fuel level sender (below that hole in the tread plate on top of the gas tank.)
I had to copy your idea on my White semi-tractor I am detailing!
Thanks
p.s. Love the tires with the raised sidewall lettering. Very much wish I had bought a set before going with the stock tires!
Mike
I had to copy your idea on my White semi-tractor I am detailing!
Thanks
p.s. Love the tires with the raised sidewall lettering. Very much wish I had bought a set before going with the stock tires!
Mike
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