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MMK: EPS Springer For Spring
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 10:46 PM UTC


A press release from vt-models has just announced the introduction of a 1/35 scale EPS Springer, produced by MMK models.

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Thanks!
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Posted: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 - 11:32 PM UTC
Great news. I may need one of these...
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 12:03 AM UTC
Looks cool. and possibly a starting point for some of the ones the US uses.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 12:23 AM UTC
What´s this? Looks a a FAV/Pickup?
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 12:38 AM UTC
It´s an All- Terrain Vehicle. The Springer is based on the
US-made Tomcar. Looks a little bit funny.

Here are some Infos aboutthis vehicle.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/springer-all-terrain/
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 04:05 AM UTC
This is probably a funny kit to build.

However the pattern of the tires is not good.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 04:40 AM UTC
Aaaaha, thanks man.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 11:00 AM UTC
Possibly a nice kit although a touch curious considering that this has a limited time frame.

Here is a shortened part of an article from Think Defence

http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2012/02/springer-when-uors-go-bad/ /

Operational Reality

Springer was used for a short period but the same problems that were described in the Sun article came again to the surface but this time in Afghanistan and not Yorkshire.

ATMP’s were used successfully in Afghanistan, in support of Apache Attack Helicopter Forward Area Refuelling Points for example, where they could be driven (fully loaded) directly onto a Chinook and moved to wherever they were needed, although this was a rare occurrence. Springers were never (I think) approved for air carriage anyway and did not have a suitable tie down system so had to be carried as a sling load.

ATMP’s were subsequently withdrawn meaning that in this scenario, for Joint Helicopter Force use, it meant a return to manhandling and keeping aircraft on the deck for longer one would presume.

The Springer ran into all sorts of problems with reliability and was, what could be charitably called, a flop.
The End Point

ATMP was withdrawn in Herrick 10 (April to October 2009) to be replaced with the Springer.

The Springer was removed from service in March 2011, recovered from Afghanistan and declared out of service in September 2011.

All 78 vehicles were recovered from Afghanistan and are now at the Defence Support Group in Aschurch, awaiting final disposal.

Cost of the project was £3.1 million excluding VAT, training and transportation costs although as stated above, this is at odds with other sources, including the MoD, that the project cost in the order of £7 million.

The rapid transit of helicopter delivered stores is now being carried out by quad bikes.

ATMP’s are now available from the usual disposal sources for about £10,000 each, or less if you want to enter an auction.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 02, 2014 - 11:35 AM UTC
That is what I thought too...that the Springer didn't get a good rep in UK service. In fact, it's not even listed as an Enhanced Protection System current product anymore.

http://www.enhancedpro.com/product-category/vehicle-systems

I guess one could Sci-Fi it...after seeing the photos of the model kit, it looks pretty cool.
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 01:43 AM UTC
Is that who I think it is in the passenger seat on the box art?

And maybe MMK might do the actual FAV. I'd say it would be more popular that the Springer
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 04:24 AM UTC

Quoted Text

And maybe MMK might do the actual FAV. I'd say it would be more popular that the Springer



What is the FAV that you are talking about ?

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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 04:44 AM UTC
If you would like a real one, they are being auctioned off :

http://www.mod-sales.com/search/results.htm

The only one I saw in Afghanistan was in 2008. It was in FOB ARMADILLO, but I dont think it was ever used, not even inside the FOB. Some one had even placed sign on it saying; not mission worthy.....

Heinrich
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 08:40 AM UTC


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...possibly a starting point for some of the ones the US uses.


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...maybe MMK might do the actual FAV.



Exactly what I was thinking. It looks to be a great starting point for a SEAL FAV


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What is the FAV that you are talking about ?



FAV (Fast Attack Vehicle) used by the US Navy SEALS during ODS ('90-'91) and in A'stan and Iraq. It was built by Chenowth Corp, who builds offroad, race dune buggies.




It has been on lots of builder's wants list for a long time. Dragon announced one in the mid '90s and recently, Bronco announced one. Neither has come to fruition.
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 10:12 AM UTC
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FAV (Fast Attack Vehicle) used by the US Navy SEALS during ODS ('90-'91) and in A'stan and Iraq. It was built by Chenowth Corp, who builds offroad, race dune buggies.




It has been on lots of builder's wants list for a long time. Dragon announced one in the mid '90s and recently, Bronco announced one. Neither has come to fruition.



OK ! Indeed this one would be so nice. Bronco ? I heard about Hobbyboss.

And you can vote for the FAV for a possible future project from Revell.

http://ideas.revell.de/ideas/item/381/
Trisaw
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Posted: Friday, April 04, 2014 - 03:12 PM UTC
I saw some private owners on Youtube with the SEAL DPV so nowadays it shouldn't be that hard to obtain the measurements of one.

I know HobbyBoss is supposedly making one, but I don't know about Bronco.

I asked MMK if they intend on making any FAVs, and not just the SEAL DPV but others such as the USMC ITV or Flyer. I'll post a reply if the answer is "yes."
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Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 12:43 AM UTC
That is of course HRH The Prince of Wales in the passenger seat, taking a joy ride.

A useful item for rear area runaround duties but not suitable for much else. It is about as dangerous as a Land Rover in foreward areas, no real protection capabilities. And I don't mean by way of firepower.

A nice little addition to my modern British to do stash.

Keith.
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Posted: Saturday, April 05, 2014 - 03:45 AM UTC

Nice pic who shows the role of the Springer.

a little walkaround of the Springer.
http://army-uk.com/equip.php?ID=673
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 08:33 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, April 07, 2014 - 10:29 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Is that who I think it is in the passenger seat on the box art?



Ungainly, odd-sticky-out bits, expensive, & not a lot of use? or the Vehicle!



Quoted Text

And maybe MMK might do the actual FAV. I'd say it would be more popular that the Springer



The FAV would be more popular, it's a Baja Buggy,
& had some slight use in the sand-box, but not for long.
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Posted: Thursday, April 10, 2014 - 06:15 AM UTC
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