Meng Cougar as Canadian JERRV
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 09:31 PM UTC
So I got and started the Meng Cougar, will be converted to a Canadian version in Afghanistan (photo by R. Saucier)
Adding the missing bits in the rear suspension mounts:
Couple of front suspension pieces had stress fractures out of the box, currently fixing with brass wire replacements...
I used to think mold release agent in modern kits was a myth, like the Sasquatch or Global Warming, but alas, it is alive and well! I suggest a good detergent bath before any painting is attempted!
So far, I am mildly disappointed in Meng with this kit - I enjoyed building their Merkava 3D and Terminator, but this one has flash here and there, the excess mold release, the stretched appearance - just seems to be a step down. (maybe I got one built on a Friday?)
I will persevere however!
Cheers,
Jim
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodel" - Zapp Brannigan
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 09:45 PM UTC
Sweet!
I will follow your adventures as I also plan the same build. Out of the box the Meng kit looks like a better build than the Panda kit (Dimensional issues aside). But Panda has anounced an actual JERRV kit.
Decisions Decisions...
It looks like this kit comes with the front brake chambers and slack adjusters! This is something I'm going to have to scratch for my Bronco Buffalo
cheers
One of the serious problems in planning against Canadian doctrine is that the Canadians do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.
---From a Russian document
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 10:07 PM UTC
Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodel" - Zapp Brannigan
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 10:15 PM UTC
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Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
The ramps look damn near impossible to me at least to scratch, we also need tEODor the robot. As for the turret, I've always liked the look of the low turret and chicken plate as opposed to the glass turret.
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 10:31 PM UTC
Both robots I've seen in the JERRV are out there. AFV Club does the Talon. Hobby Fan makes the other in resin and PE.
A strong man stands up for himself; A stronger man stands up for others.
Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.
He is not Khan who calls himself Khan. Afghan proverb
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 10:43 PM UTC
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Both robots I've seen in the JERRV are out there. AFV Club does the Talon. Hobby Fan makes the other in resin and PE.
Canada uses the Cobham tEODor robot.
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 10:46 PM UTC
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The ramps look damn near impossible to me at least to scratch
They'd be perfect for photo-etch, as well as the racks for the POL cans. Eduard...Bueller...Bueller? Maybe even 3D printed?
Jim
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodel" - Zapp Brannigan
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2015 - 11:38 PM UTC
My bad. I thought that was a typo on the name of the robot. It looks easy enough to scratch though. I did this one before the AFV Club one came out, and it was almost identical in size. First photos are gone, but end result is toward the bottom of the page. 1/72 scale resin track works great. There's probably something out there very close to what you'd need.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/127673Edit: After looking at some photos, I really want to built one now. It looks as if there must be a Roco kit out there that can be cut up fore the tracks and possibly part of the running gear. Their track is just like the robot's on every tracked vehicle they make.
A strong man stands up for himself; A stronger man stands up for others.
Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.
He is not Khan who calls himself Khan. Afghan proverb
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 12:11 AM UTC
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The ramps look damn near impossible to me at least to scratch
They'd be perfect for photo-etch, as well as the racks for the POL cans. Eduard...Bueller...Bueller? Maybe even 3D printed?
Jim
Maybe Miloslav at Real Models can make a Canadian update set with a resin robot, updated interior and P.E. ramps...
cheers
One of the serious problems in planning against Canadian doctrine is that the Canadians do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.
---From a Russian document
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Västra Götaland, Sweden
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 12:23 AM UTC
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The ramps look damn near impossible to me at least to scratch
They'd be perfect for photo-etch, as well as the racks for the POL cans. Eduard...Bueller...Bueller? Maybe even 3D printed?
Jim
Maybe Miloslav at Real Models can make a Canadian update set with a resin robot, updated interior and P.E. ramps..
that would be great if he can do...
Do you know if the US version also have the ramps or is this only a canadian thing?
If US use it also where do they have them? Inside the veichle?
Will follow this build with interest as i will build one Jerrv also...
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 12:32 AM UTC
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The ramps look damn near impossible to me at least to scratch
They'd be perfect for photo-etch, as well as the racks for the POL cans. Eduard...Bueller...Bueller? Maybe even 3D printed?
Jim
Maybe Miloslav at Real Models can make a Canadian update set with a resin robot, updated interior and P.E. ramps..
that would be great if he can do...
Do you know if the US version also have the ramps or is this only a canadian thing?
If US use it also where do they have them? Inside the veichle?
Will follow this build with interest as i will build one Jerrv also...
I have only seen them on the Canadian vehicles. I think the reason is the Cobham robot is heavier then the Talon/Packbot used by the US.
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 03:12 AM UTC
A strong man stands up for himself; A stronger man stands up for others.
Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.
He is not Khan who calls himself Khan. Afghan proverb
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 03:24 AM UTC
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I took these back on '07 on the way to Ft. Bliss prior to deploying.
LOL, I was in Fort Bliss in '07 as well for pre-deployment training.
cheers
One of the serious problems in planning against Canadian doctrine is that the Canadians do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.
---From a Russian document
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Colorado, United States
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 03:53 AM UTC
Were you at Donna Anna, NM? If so you have my sympathies. I volunteered to go to Iraq early on the ADVON just to get away from there.
A strong man stands up for himself; A stronger man stands up for others.
Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.
He is not Khan who calls himself Khan. Afghan proverb
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 03:54 AM UTC
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I took these back on '07 on the way to Ft. Bliss prior to deploying.
LOL, I was in Fort Bliss in '07 as well for pre-deployment training.
cheers
Didn't we get JERRV's from the US before we bought our own? Any chance this is one of those with our ramps on it? I mean I've watched Bomb patrol Afghanistan, googled high and low and all I could come up with was one other image of a Navy Cougar 4x4 with the ramps and it looked like more of a display or advertiesment image.
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 03:56 AM UTC
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Were you at Donna Anna, NM? If so you have my sympathies. I volunteered to go to Iraq early on the ADVON just to get away from there.
Yep, with the Canadian Battle Group 3-08, I was employed with the TFK HQ J2 Ops.
Good times LOL!
cheers
One of the serious problems in planning against Canadian doctrine is that the Canadians do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.
---From a Russian document
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 04:07 AM UTC
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Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
Jim,
If you need something cast let me know and I may be able to help you out.
John
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 07:03 AM UTC
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Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
Jim,
If you need something cast let me know and I may be able to help you out.
John
How about a made in Alberta resin Cougar JERRV conversion/update set from Formations?
"We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people."
July 2005- General R.J. Hillier (Retired), Former Chief of the Defence Staff
Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2015 - 05:47 PM UTC
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Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
Jim,
If you need something cast let me know and I may be able to help you out.
John
How about a made in Alberta resin Cougar JERRV conversion/update set from Formations?
Are you asking or are you telling?
cheers
One of the serious problems in planning against Canadian doctrine is that the Canadians do not read their manuals, nor do they feel any obligations to follow their doctrine.
---From a Russian document
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 02:08 AM UTC
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Wish I had my casting stuff here Rick; I'd make copies of the new bins and stuff. Perhaps another one when the Panda one comes out? Have to decide on which turret to go with as well...
And ramps, we need ramps...
Cheers,
Jim
Jim,
If you need something cast let me know and I may be able to help you out.
John
How about a made in Alberta resin Cougar JERRV conversion/update set from Formations?
Are you asking or are you telling?
cheers
Just making a suggestion...John is a smart and skilled Canadian resin producer...if he wanted to create a Canadian Cougar conversion it would be a very good one.
"We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people."
July 2005- General R.J. Hillier (Retired), Former Chief of the Defence Staff
Wisconsin, United States
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 02:56 AM UTC
What color are these robots?
Mike
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 03:57 AM UTC
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What color are these robots?
Mike
Canada actually uses multiple types of "robots"...some big, some small.
Theodore and Vanguard are both painted in CARC green.
"We're not the public service of Canada, we're not just another department. We are the Canadian Forces, and our job is to be able to kill people."
July 2005- General R.J. Hillier (Retired), Former Chief of the Defence Staff
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 04:30 AM UTC
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How about a made in Alberta resin Cougar JERRV conversion/update set from Formations?
I would love to do more Canadian stuff, however I don't have the skill/info/time to master such items.
Now if someone is willing to make the masters for me, we can certainly discuss
John
Praha, Czech Republic
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 01:26 PM UTC
Hope you like it and "watch those negative waves"
Colorado, United States
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2015 - 09:41 PM UTC
The wheels are in motion...
A strong man stands up for himself; A stronger man stands up for others.
Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter-accusations.
He is not Khan who calls himself Khan. Afghan proverb
