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Dragon doing a M752 Lance Missle launcher
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 01:04 AM UTC
This is a bit of a surprise...

http://www.dragonusaonline.com/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=DRA3576

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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 01:26 AM UTC
Cool! And another missile tank along with Trumpeters upcoming Krug.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 01:53 AM UTC
Too bad for PSM and hopefully NOT the start of a Black Plague M113 family.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 01:55 AM UTC
I will have and hold and hug. What a little slice of the cold war to build at my bench.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 02:06 AM UTC
Very nice but $70?
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 02:14 AM UTC
Very interesting! Can be added to my growing collection of cold war British items!

Fingers crossed it's not afflicted with the Black Plague
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 02:20 AM UTC
WOW Hope they try an Honest John next
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 02:30 AM UTC

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Cool! And another missile tank along with Trumpeters upcoming Krug.



Tank?
Artillery, you mean!

😂😂
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 02:51 AM UTC
I reached out to my Dragon contacts for more information. Based on previous recent Dragon modern armor releases I'm not particularly optimistic, but who knows...
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 03:26 AM UTC

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Very nice but $70?



Compared to the prices of other recent releases, $70 USD ($100 CAN) is a real bargain!
backswampcub
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 04:27 AM UTC
I am sure the actual shelf price at a lot of online and overseas retailers will be far less then $70.00. Besides you all know you will need it either way when you are on the living room floor playing army men. I know I will be unstoppable with this and my atomic cannon.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 05:39 AM UTC
I wonder if this means they are working on an M113 platform?
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 06:18 AM UTC
Wow!!! I guess I really should finish the Hobby Fan kit
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 06:25 AM UTC

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Cool! And another missile tank along with Trumpeters upcoming Krug.



Tank?
Artillery, you mean!

😂😂





Just me being lazy. It's got tracks though and looks a bit like a tank.
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 06:48 AM UTC
If they do as good a job on the Lance as the did on the Patriot, it will be quite disappointing. I would have felt better if it was Trumpeter, AFV or Meng.

Rounds Complete!!
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Posted: Friday, January 20, 2017 - 12:48 PM UTC



Well I think it's a nice surprise

Sam.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 01:11 AM UTC

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Well I think it's a nice surprise

Sam.



I wonder if they'll release the towed version as Hobby Fan has done (along with the HF tracked version) . The launcher in the back of the SP version isn't to much different than the towed version-- it just has wheels and a towing lunet as I recall with some firing electronics in a separate box. It was also Airmobile in the back of a CH-47. I for one am glad to see somebody doing this, but we also need an Honest John and a LaCrosse.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 02:08 AM UTC
I wonder...

Long time ago Dragon announced M983 tractor with a Patriot launcher trailer. When they finally released that combo, the tractor turned out to be just the Italeri old HEMTT with some new parts to make a rather poorly detailed M983 of it.

And we know that Italeri already have M113 series of kits... And they are not the best in the market, quite the opposite actually...
Not sure how many parts Dragon could re-use for this kit though - wheels, suspension parts, tracks, skirts... Anything else?
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 03:38 AM UTC
I have a couple AFV Club M548's in the stash. I wonder how the Lance portion would work with the AFV Club chassis....HMMMMMMMM.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 03:51 AM UTC

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I have a couple AFV Club M548's in the stash. I wonder how the Lance portion would work with the AFV Club chassis....HMMMMMMMM.



It should be fine once you convert it to an M667 carrier.

KL
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 05:36 AM UTC
Well, FWIW - The Dragon ad does say "100% new - tooled". Sooo.............
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 09:32 AM UTC
Yep now need the resupply vehicle M668.

Hey what about the Volcano M548
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 11:27 AM UTC
I fully expect an Italeri M113 suspension. A new mold can have old parts on it to allow for another version to be kitted.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 12:08 PM UTC
Maybe we will see something soon IF DML attends to Nuremberg Toy Fair. I think we can see the first images on Primeportal on February, 2.
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Posted: Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 12:21 PM UTC

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I fully expect an Italeri M113 suspension. A new mold can have old parts on it to allow for another version to be kitted.



Stephen, I guess we'll find out. The Hobby Fan Lance uses parts from the AFV M548, but the loading ramp, rear superstructure and driver's/engine compartment are all resin since they are so different from the M548. Seems to me Dragon would have to do a lot of work to get the suspension from an existing M113 kit to fit a new Lance hull, but lately anything goes with Dragon I guess. And they sure have been taking a lot of shortcuts with their post-war US equipment. By the same account, since the launcher is the same on the towed version, it wouldn't take much to do a towed version-- just add wheels really. As much as I'm skeptical of thier details, I'm certainly glad there will be some competition for the incredibly expensive HF kit-- if the $79 cost of this kit scares anyone, HF retails for about $150, with the towed versions going for about $75. I dumped my HF kits about 3 years ago because I could get more for them than I paid 8 yeas ago. So this one is welcome for sure, they can't screw it up that bad can they?
VR, Russ
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