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LAV-25 Desert Storm
Burik
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 08:34 AM UTC
Trumpeter seems to have several options with the LAV. Are any LAV-25 kits good out of the box for Desert Storm? Or do I have to backdate a kit to make that happen? Is that realistic to pull off a backdate?

Bob
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 08:54 AM UTC
The Trumpeter LAV-25 released in 2005 (00349) might be a good place to start.

It could probably use an Eduard or Voyager PE set, replacement resin wheels, and an aftermarket M240 for the turret pintle mount.

Epi
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 10:20 AM UTC
Trumpeters kit# 00349 USMC LAV-25 Piranha


Just don't use the barrel out of the kit, it is fluted.



Two different types of turret mounted MG's




bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 11:57 AM UTC
I'm building one for early OIF and so had a look at the Eduard PE set to detail my model. My conclusion is do not waste your money on it! While some parts are useful because Trumpeter omitted them (wire-cutters for instance), a lot of others are useless because wrongly designed (engine grilles mesh which is wrong pattern).
I can't comment about the Voyager set.

Trumpeter does not provide any turret MG in the kit (neither the coax, nor the roof mounted one). You can find M60A3 in a Tamiya set. For the coax MG, Trumpeter released a set with a M240 and the M242 chain gun from whioch you could borrow the MG barrel.

Be aware that as the gun is moveable, there is a nasty gap behind the mantlet. Alos I would recommend to start the axles assembly by the rear ones otherwise you might face a problem of wheel alignment as the front wheel "legs" (sorry for the poor technical term )go too deep in the hull.

Olivier
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 12:59 PM UTC
Great info there Pete and Olivier. Thanks for taking the time, I have noted all this for when I get around to my build.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 05:02 PM UTC
I'm sorry for intruding on this thread, but I have the Trumpeter kit and the same doubts as Robert. In addition to everything said, what are the best early type wheels in resin? If I'm not wrong for Desert Storm they had the early narrow wheels. Thank you.

Pablo
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 06:13 PM UTC

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what are the best early type wheels in resin? If I'm not wrong for Desert Storm they had the early narrow wheels.



Here's an option :



Another option : Panzer Art 1:35 Road Wheels for ASLAV-25/Lav-25 Resin set RE35-221 :


H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 - 07:30 PM UTC
Thank you Henri-Pierre.
newnikonian
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 12:30 AM UTC
Good kit. Built one in 2007.... Fit was perfect.

The supplied wheel made many modelers fume and rage when the kit came out. If you have any old M1 kit, you can rig a MG. There were some pics with those rigged MGs.....

Burik
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 01:44 AM UTC
Thanks everybody. So the tires are of a different pattern for ODS or people just don't like the material?

I'll be doing someone's vehicle and I am waiting for pics, but I'm sure I can figure out the 240.

And the barrel is not supposed to be fluted for ODS.

Bob
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 02:11 AM UTC
Trumpeter barrel is a hermaphrodite, fluted on top, straight below. New barrel is defintly needed.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 03:52 AM UTC
The tires in the kit are the correct type, but they are vinyl. Some prefer the resin replacements. There is also no spare in the kit; which most vehicles carried.

The fluted barrel was not used until after ODS. For an ODS vehicle, the barrel should be smooth.

PMMS has a great review of the kit here.

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I'm sure it will be awesome.
Epi
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 12:33 PM UTC
Robert, I will pm you a message on FaceBook, but bottom line, I got you covered on a barrel.
bison126
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Posted: Thursday, January 11, 2018 - 06:44 PM UTC

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Trumpeter barrel is a hermaphrodite, fluted on top, straight below. New barrel is defintly needed.



In my box, there is another fluted barrel in the bag for the figures parts. It is marked ASLAV-25. Unfortunately it is not suitable for DS time frame.

Olivier
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