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Takom's M60A1 ERA
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 06:20 AM UTC
Impressed with this kit and really hope Takom will go the M3 route and release a bunch of M60 versions. The only thing I'm planning to change is replacing the commanders cupola with one from the AFV Club kit - it's a drop fit. Started some work on the hull which to me has been much easier than the AFV Club kit. Did try to enhance the weld marks on the lower hull. Hoping it will look good under paint.







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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 07:20 AM UTC
Looks good Chris. I'll be following your build. The kit looks a lot less fiddly than the AFV kit. I too hope they will release more versions. Good Luck, Mark
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Friday, September 14, 2018 - 03:36 PM UTC
I'm working on a Takom M60, doing a slick using a Dragon M60 turret, and the AFV Club kit, same time, and I have to say the Takom kit has it for fine detail along with easy of assembly. I'll be watching this one too, very interested.
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 03:26 AM UTC
A bit more work on this. Very easy build, everything fits. The only fit error I found was with the left rear fender bracket which doesn't mate up to the hull side. Simple fix.









Here are the TC' cupolas, the kit one on the left and the AFV Club on he right.



Some of the ERA panels and the attachment hardware. It all fits like a glove. I test fitted them to the turret and upper hull without any problems.

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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 03:58 AM UTC
Very nice!!! Tuned in and watching, although I am still attached to the Tamiya kit with the DEF hull correction, Bronco tracks, PanzerArt wheels and the Verlinden ERA. Might ive them up for this kit.
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 06:09 AM UTC
nice, but it looks like the outrigger is not touching the hull.
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 07:36 AM UTC
I just ordered this kit, to put on a Meng M911 tank transport for a ODS diorama. Did any M1A1/A2's Abrams go on a M911 tank transport?

I will be following your build closely, I can't wait to see how it turns out. Looking incredible so far. Its inspiring.

Happy modeling
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Posted: Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 02:47 PM UTC
I am building this as well and I did get the rear fender supports to connect to the hull but it was a question of watching the angle of the fenders so they are straight and at 90 degrees to hull. The fenders are a bit of a pain to put on right. Also watch the rear turret basket. It was a real pain to get the brass bent just right and at the correct location. I think if I did it again I would build the whole turret basket and connect it to the turret and then add the photo etch. One thing I do like is the tracks, they might need some clean up, the rubber has weight and may give a subtle sage when put on. Keep you all posted.
Dave
Oh and I found on my build the gun mantle and bottom of turret rub on top of left and right sponson bin tops. Had to sand the bottom of the turret front down a bit but after I fitted the photo etch around gun cover
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 01:43 AM UTC

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I am building this as well and I did get the rear fender supports to connect to the hull but it was a question of watching the angle of the fenders so they are straight and at 90 degrees to hull. The fenders are a bit of a pain to put on right. Also watch the rear turret basket. It was a real pain to get the brass bent just right and at the correct location. I think if I did it again I would build the whole turret basket and connect it to the turret and then add the photo etch. One thing I do like is the tracks, they might need some clean up, the rubber has weight and may give a subtle sage when put on. Keep you all posted.
Dave
Oh and I found on my build the gun mantle and bottom of turret rub on top of left and right sponson bin tops. Had to sand the bottom of the turret front down a bit but after I fitted the photo etch around gun cover



Good tips. I'll keep an eye out for those areas. Working on the turret basket now and that's the route I'm taking. Attached the plastic parts first and will attached the annealed brass parts afterwards.
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 05:49 AM UTC
Some additional work on the turret. The surface texture is much more subtle than on the AFV Club kits.







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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 06:22 AM UTC
Are the holes on the turret necessary?
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Posted: Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 06:25 AM UTC

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Are the holes on the turret necessary?



Locator holes for the ERA panels.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 05:46 AM UTC
Coming along nicely. The only hiccup has been the PE mesh for the stowage basket. I've annealed it multiple times but it keeps popping free at the ends. A little more CA needed. About ready for some primer and I'll be pre-shading this one since it has a light color overall. Also still need to add some microchain for various retaining chains on the vehicle. Using the PE chain from Hauler Model.







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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 03:34 PM UTC
The tow cables are very stiff and would not drape over the rear deck.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 05:44 PM UTC
How easy is it to make US Army version
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 05:45 PM UTC
Yea Dragon has the M48 AVLB. Hey Takom how about a M60 AVLB
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Posted: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 08:10 PM UTC

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How easy is it to make US Army version


Build it as a normal M60A1 without the ERA and put Army markings on it.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 01:01 AM UTC

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The tow cables are very stiff and would not drape over the rear deck.



That might be tough to fix but I'll give it a shot.....
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 01:02 AM UTC

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How easy is it to make US Army version


Build it as a normal M60A1 without the ERA and put Army markings on it.



That's what I'm planning on doing.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 01:40 AM UTC

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The tow cables are very stiff and would not drape over the rear deck.



That might be tough to fix but I'll give it a shot.....



You need to anneal the cable. I assume it is a copper one. Just grab one end with a plier and heat it up uniformly over a kitchen burner until red. Don't touch it with a bare hand. When red quickly cool it down in the water. Colder water will give softer cable.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 04:21 AM UTC

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The tow cables are very stiff and would not drape over the rear deck.



That might be tough to fix but I'll give it a shot.....



You need to anneal the cable. I assume it is a copper one. Just grab one end with a plier and heat it up uniformly over a kitchen burner until red. Don't touch it with a bare hand. When red quickly cool it down in the water. Colder water will give softer cable.



I think Gregs's comment are aimed at the opposite. The real steel tow cables are stiff and do not drape after the contoures of the engine deck very much.


Very interesting build Chris. Thanks for taking the time to post it up here.

Cheers,
/E
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 06:43 AM UTC

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The tow cables are very stiff and would not drape over the rear deck.



That might be tough to fix but I'll give it a shot.....



You need to anneal the cable. I assume it is a copper one. Just grab one end with a plier and heat it up uniformly over a kitchen burner until red. Don't touch it with a bare hand. When red quickly cool it down in the water. Colder water will give softer cable.



I think Gregs's comment are aimed at the opposite. The real steel tow cables are stiff and do not drape after the contoures of the engine deck very much.


Very interesting build Chris. Thanks for taking the time to post it up here.

Cheers,
/E



After studying some pictures after the fact I see what everyone is talking about. Fixing it without destroying the engine deck is another matter. Need to see how debonder reacts to the plastic first.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 01:33 PM UTC
Should not be that bad to get it off there, pry slowly with a chisel blade xacto blade, somebody makes a gel super glue remover. Or throw some stowage on the parts that bend down a little.

Looks great overall.
Nice looking kit.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 02:13 PM UTC
I have used Rustoleum's Terri Cotta paint to put nonslip texture on the tank. If there is some damage to the back deck, clean it up, smooth it out and apply the nonslip texture. should look as good as new. Just remember the nonslip was applied to certain areas not just all over. I think Gino has the pattern. Here is my back deck with the Rustolium Terri Cotta paint applied.

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Posted: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 05:16 PM UTC
It's first time I heard about non slip texture on US M60A1. I'm really interested in its pattern.
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