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Real pic of German Mous
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Posted: Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 10:51 AM UTC
https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2018/09/rare-photo-of-german-maus-super-heavy.html
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Posted: Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:43 PM UTC
Is the photo genuine? I only ask because wasn't there only two prototypes of the Maus built? The V1 hull with mock up counterweight turret and the V2 with turret. I'm no photography expert but looking at the photo raises some red flags to me. The size of the Maus compared to the sturmtiger and the fact that it's on flimsy looking railway flatbread carriage is suspect what was the weight of a Sturmtiger upwards of 68 tonnes and the Maus was even heavier something just doesn't look right and only two men in the picture no guards no soldiers, no maintenance crews or officers this picture screams Photoshop to me like there was another tank there and the Maus has been superemposed. I'd like to be wrong but imho if it's too good to be true chances are it ain't.
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Posted: Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 09:49 PM UTC
Looking more closely the sturmtiger is hanging off via it's right tracks because it's too wide yet the Maus is sitting perfect? The Maus was bigger in every way if the sturmtiger is hanging off the Maus would definetly not fit on the same carriage so perfectly as in the photo more evidence to my eye at least this is a fake.
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Posted: Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 11:57 PM UTC
This photo has been taken while transporting vehicles to Russia after their capture by the soviets. It seems they are placed on soviet flabeds.
These tanks are at Kubinka tank museum now (actually Sturmtiger has been relocated to a new museum "Patriot").
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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 12:46 AM UTC
The Maus isnt really wide its tall and long but its width isnt insane
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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 01:08 AM UTC

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The Maus isnt really wide its tall and long but its width isnt insane



Exactly, and the reason for which we can see on the picture. They had to fit the railway cars and comply with the railway clearance gauge...
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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 01:11 AM UTC
That Maus is on its specifically designed rail car in that pic. You can see more pics of the rail car in Panzer Tracts 6-3. That Strumtiger doesn't look to be on a proper transport car for Tiger tanks. It also doesn't have the narrower transport tracks installed.

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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 01:19 AM UTC
The photo looks genuine enough to me. The Maus is a good 30-40ft further away from the camera than the Sturmtiger, so appears smaller. (There's a classic Father Ted sketch there...). The Sturmtiger isn't square on its flatcar, so the front right track is hanging off - chances are they straightened it up sometime after it demolished its first lineside structure! And it looks to be on combat tracks rather than the narrow transport tracks, so will hang over both sides of that car anyway. Maus had to be rail-transportable so its width was constrained to not much more than Tiger/KT size. But just look at all the wheels under that depressed-centre flatcar! It was a beast to move, and needed lots of axles to spread the weight on the rails...
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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 01:37 AM UTC




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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 03:54 AM UTC
That is a serious rail car

http://i.imgur.com/mkqGngH.jpg
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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 04:03 PM UTC
The photo in question; slightly enhanced with Photoshop exposure and contrast adjustments.

Yes, that is a SERIOUS rail car!

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Posted: Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 05:50 PM UTC
The rail car is 27m long with 14 axles. The Maus is 3.7m wide.
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