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Neo
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Posted: Sunday, November 11, 2018 - 11:13 AM UTC
Saw a P51 Mustang fly by yesterday.
Didn't pay much attention.
Then saw this.


Must had fallen down a Worm Hole and traveled back in time.
Again...





But what I really liked was this.
Not something you see every day...



They were actually firing that thing (and a MG42 on an AA Tripod).

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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 03:55 AM UTC
Very cool. I've seen a few old werbirds flying and on the ground, but possibly the highpoint was back when Love Field in Dallas hosted an air show, and our house was under the flight path for the return loop, and all kinds of stuff flew over, low and slow. It's just hard to describe the sound and feel of multiple radial engines on the same aircraft, but I spent a lot of time during those afternoons with the hair on my arms standing up.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 04:04 AM UTC
Outstanding.Where did you see this,was it in North Carolina,and when can it be seen again ???
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 04:32 AM UTC
Just for your information:
That halftrack is built on top of the chassis from an OT-810.
The OT-810 was produced post-war in Czechoslovakia. They kept most of the construction and swapped out some parts, the tracks for instance. Those are a dead give-away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RQWMLjvhKM



compare the tracks to a real Sd.Kfz. 251

Those rubber pads are really worn down ...

Lots of reenactors have built their Sd.Kfz. 251 replicas on OT-810 chassis
/ Robin

/ Robin
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 04:33 AM UTC
I think the Mustang and B-17 are part of a group of planes that travel around the country. We had them at the airport by my house- there was also a B-24 and a B-25. They stayed for 3 days, offered rides and tours of the planes.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 04:58 AM UTC
Lots of WW2 Stuff, and flying too.
Few P51, P40, F4, Spitfire, C47 (you could ride in) few SBD...
They advertised a ME262 but it was not there on Sat.

The 251 (or OT 810) is from the SC Armor Museum in Columbia.
I could not verify linage of vehicle (you can see the line to talk to the crew).
Apparently their first trip to show.
That actually popped some 20MM rounds and had a MG42 going too (blanks of course).
I found that to be rather enjoyable...

The show:
$5 (Vets) - hard to beat

https://www.monroenc.org/Portals/0/Departments/2018%20Air%20Show%20poster.jpg
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:11 AM UTC
The B-17 looks like the Madras Maiden. Sadly I think only 11 are still flying. Chuckie used to be at Alliance airport in Ft. Worth. I saw this one at the Cavanaugh Museum a few years ago:



They were nice enough to let me know when they were doing a complete maintenance tear down on the this P-51D so I could get photos for a crash scene. (And the P-51 chopper I'm still building)




They were even nice enough to lower the flaps on this C-47 for me to help with another build.



Speaking of C-47s, I took my family on a Christmas flight on this one:




The smiles mean money well spent:



With any luck I'll be jumping out of one next June, if not sooner.

If you don't know whom to be charitable to this year, think of these restoration groups. Without their help we'd have far fewer examples than we do now.

Final shot - another C-47 visible in the background from Ford Island earlier this year. They've got a B-17 there as well.

Removed by original poster on 11/12/18 - 17:20:54 (GMT).
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 05:23 AM UTC

Quoted Text

The 251 (or OT 810) is from the SC Armor Museum in Columbia.
I could not verify linage of vehicle...



Robin answered your question regarding the lineage.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 06:02 AM UTC
I was at Falcon Field years ago when the P-51 took off. Saweeeet! I was there doing traffic control when they fired up the FW190 for the first time after it was rebuilt, NICE (also met Saburo Suchi). Sadly the museum moved some years later.

Coolest thing with the bombers was one day hearing the drone of radials and a B-29 circled the area on its way to landing. Still high up but the windows in the house vibrated.

Many years ago there was a WWI fighters club flying nearby. They used to dog fight over the area on Saturdays. Sadly chased out by what is now known as the PC crowd. It was too "dangerous".

I've taken rides in the Ex-OT's and the US M3 half tracks. The OT is quiet, but the M3 is noisy as all hooey. The M8/M20's are very quiet.
Neo
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 07:54 AM UTC

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The B-17 looks like the Madras Maiden.

With any luck I'll be jumping out of one next June, if not sooner.




Robert,

I think your correct, I'm fairly sure I heard somebody use that name.

Going to jump for the 75 year anniversary ?
Bunch guys from my unit went in 2004 for the 60.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 08:08 AM UTC
From the link,it appears to be a yearly show.If they have it next year,will have to check it out,only a little more then two hours away from me.
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 09:11 AM UTC

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Robert,
Going to jump for the 75 year anniversary ?



I've got my uniform, main and reserve. Currently building a 1:1 Hawkins mine. Without a Tardis, (building one of those too) that's the best I can come to time travel.
Neo
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 09:37 AM UTC

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The 251 (or OT 810) is from the SC Armor Museum in Columbia.
I could not verify linage of vehicle...



Robin answered your question regarding the lineage.




No not really.
He made a general statement about the chassis & rebuilds.

By "linage" (If spelled correctly) I mean the history.
So the history of that specific vehicle, in that specific picture.

Who owns it ?
SC Armor Museum ?
Reenactor group ?
Private Collector ?

Who built / rebuilt it ?
Museum ?
Movie Studio Maybe ?

How much (if any) is real ?

And if any part is real - Where did it come from ?

How much $$$ to build & whats its value ?

And last but not least - where they find a working Flak 30
Or is that a reproduction too ?
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:04 AM UTC
Lineage:
The chassis has Czech origins but it could have traveled many different paths to reach that exhibition or event.

As for the rest ....
Engine? Could have been swapped out.
Armour and stuff on top? Anybodys guess or ask the owners
Welding up steel plates isn't too difficult. Scratch building a gun is a "little" bit more difficult ....
/ Robin
Neo
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Posted: Monday, November 12, 2018 - 10:16 AM UTC

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Robert,
Going to jump for the 75 year anniversary ?



I've got my uniform, main and reserve. Currently building a 1:1 Hawkins mine. Without a Tardis, (building one of those too) that's the best I can come to time travel.




You would jump w/ modern chute tho NO?

If by chance you build a working Tardis, I will give you all my money for a ride to the past.
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