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US Forces retreat from Syria
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 05:12 AM UTC
With the announced retreat of US Military personal out of Northern Syria, hopefully more pics of the heavily modified Strykers will be released.
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201804051063223840-usa-syria-retreat-saudi-money-play/

Google Search results so far.
https://www.google.de/search?q=US++Retreat+from+syria&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwieqsjD8a7fAhWjM-wKHcI1A3YQ_AUIDygC&biw=1252&bih=764#imgrc=h83zoEot7LjT-M:
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 06:04 AM UTC
It would be fun to build a Stryker without the slat armor. More photos like that one are needed. Maybe you tread heads can tell me what I would need for that type of Stryker?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 06:22 AM UTC
This is misinformation. The US has eliminated ISIS forces, from Syria and is withdrawing.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 06:42 AM UTC
You mean retrograde operations?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 06:50 AM UTC
OP Smith

Retreat,Hell,were just attacking in a diffrent direction.

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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 07:43 AM UTC

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It would be fun to build a Stryker without the slat armor. More photos like that one are needed. Maybe you tread heads can tell me what I would need for that type of Stryker?



Looks like these are M1126 ICV. I think that most of the add-on part can be purcased from Real Model. What you DON´T get as AM is the rear stowage rack (from Dragoon ICV) and the Joint Capabilities Release/BFT2 installation next to the drivers hatch. Like said before, a good walk-around would be handy. I wonder who crews the Strykers? Regular Army or Special Forces?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 07:46 AM UTC
Images and videos of Strykers in Syria.

https://www.google.de/search?q=strykers+in+syria&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2ksTvla_fAhVJ-6QKHarKC90Q_AUIDigB&biw=1252&bih=764

Note that the Strykers are converted to Double-V hull. Almost impossible to build fromexisting kits.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 09:39 AM UTC
Retreat?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 10:01 AM UTC
If we're going to leave Syria, will some of our vehicles be handed over to the SDF/YPG? Will it be cost-effective to ship them home?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 10:05 AM UTC
There probably just regrouping.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 10:48 AM UTC
Guys, Hans' primary language is German, so maybe cut him some slack on "retreat". I'm sure he wasn't attempting to make a disparaging remark, so no need for any political dust-ups. Just saying.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 11:28 AM UTC
Ok that’s a good point,perhaps he can clarify his meanining for us,Snide remark or innocent language error ?
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 12:00 PM UTC
Synonyms for the word 'withdraw':
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/withdraw


I bet that ISIS sees it as a retreat ...
others will probably see it as a betrayal (not listed among the synonyms!)
Iran will be happy, same as Putin and Assad.
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 12:49 PM UTC

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Synonyms for the word 'withdraw':
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/withdraw


I bet that ISIS sees it as a retreat ...
others will probably see it as a betrayal (not listed among the synonyms!)
Iran will be happy, same as Putin and Assad.
/ Robin



I think you're right. And what will happen to our Kurdish allies after we leave? Bashar al Assad has already said he considers them traitors.
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 05:07 PM UTC
In response to JPhillips-----I don't think we will give the Kurds anything. Maybe small arms etc. and some heavy weapons. I think the Kurds deserve modern weapons but all the players in the region who have Kurds in their country will oppose the Kurds getting tanks,etc.I think if we or anyone gave the Kurds tanks and artillery they would never give them back. They deserve a homeland. but Syria,Iraq,Turkey and Iran will not let them have it.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 12:49 AM UTC
I noticed that a lot of the news on the US leaving Syria is calling it a retreat.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 01:28 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Synonyms for the word 'withdraw':
https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/withdraw


I bet that ISIS sees it as a retreat ...
others will probably see it as a betrayal (not listed among the synonyms!)
Iran will be happy, same as Putin and Assad.
/ Robin



Agree...our enemies will surely rejoice at our 'redeployment'. The Turks will once again, 'disagree' with the Kurds and have a lover's quarrel (throwing a few ashtrays at each other), the Syrian anti-govt factions will have yet another bar fight with Assad's forces, and will bring in their buddies: Iranian and Russian help/weapons. ISIS will remerge, once again scraping up the road kill thinking hey conquered something (you know how those high school graduates act). On the low-intensity conflict side of things, the U.S. will most likely keep a clandestine force of SpecOps hanging around, chewing on worn out tires and helping the Air Force stay on it's toes with occasional "target practice".
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 02:40 AM UTC
The PKK is considered a terrorist organization by the US GOVT
https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
DAN
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 03:02 AM UTC
It goes without saying, the US is bringing its troops back to the continent to prepare for Trumps impending invasion of Canada. His real enemy must be conquered and submit. Endless diorama potential here.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 03:59 AM UTC
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/20/read-james-mattis-letter-to-trump-resigning-as-defense-secretary.html

/ Robin
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:00 AM UTC

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The PKK is considered a terrorist organization by the US GOVT
https://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm
DAN



There are other kurdish organisations which are not terrorists.
/ Robin
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:17 AM UTC
Before this discussion gets overly political and nasty, why don't we focus on the original intent of this post; Strykers and other vehicles in Syria.

It looks like most are using the driver's foul weather cover. I bet the glass is now armored. This one also has an M134 minigun mounted.


Green and sand Strykers both in country.


All appear to fly the US flag for IFF/air ID as well.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:24 AM UTC
What is that "black" tube thingy hanging on the rear left side in the first picture?
They really look "busy" with equipment and stuff all over the outside.
/ Robin
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:32 AM UTC
It looks an M47 Dragon AT missile tube.




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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:49 AM UTC
Could it be a Javelin?
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