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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 11:55 AM UTC
I have one of the Bronco kits, and it mentions right and left side tracks. But even though the sprues have R and L designations, I cannot for the life of me see the difference between them! Or was it a matter of "they were supposed to be different but turned out not to be on the actual vehicle"?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 01, 2019 - 06:25 PM UTC
What type of vehicle?
Could it be that the head of the pins are specular?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 12:08 AM UTC

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What type of vehicle?
Could it be that the head of the pins are specular?


This one: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/122667-bronco-cb35083-yw-750-armored-ambulance
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 12:20 AM UTC
You can check out Olivier's YW-750 pics ( it uses the same tracks...) :

http://olivier.carneau.free.fr/photoengins/chine/yw750/index.htm

EDIT : Robin and Massimo are right about the pin itself...It protrudes more on the outer side (no magnifying glass needed )

http://olivier.carneau.free.fr/photoengins/chine/yw750/yw750_037.htm

Close-up of the pin retaining ring :

http://olivier.carneau.free.fr/photoengins/chine/yw750/yw750_038.JPG

H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 12:22 AM UTC

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What type of vehicle?
Could it be that the head of the pins are specular?


This one: https://www.scalemates.com/kits/122667-bronco-cb35083-yw-750-armored-ambulance


Thanks for asking this question and alerting me to the differences.
It IS the track pins.
Look closely at the links with a magnifying glass and compare with the sprue images in the parts list. The image in the parts list also show the difference between right and left hand track links.
I guess that the construction follows the same principle as the tracks on T-34s. Simple pin with a head on the inside, when the pin tries to move it gets knocked back into place by a skid mounted on the side of the hull. The head ends of the track pins face inward. This solution was also inherited by German tracks in WW II, Pz III and IV at least. The later types of these tracks also used the knock-me-back-in pins.
Dragon used colour coding and packed their magic tracks in two separate bags, left hand vs right hand.
I checked the instructions for YW-531C kit, same basic vehicle, but I found no evidence of the skid to knock the pins back in.
Maybe the construction was changed to add a lock pin or something.
Check the instructions carefully to get the correct track on each side.
/ Robin
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 12:25 AM UTC
If it requires a magnifying glass to tell the difference, it's not something I would lose sleep over, but that's just me...

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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 12:31 AM UTC
It depends on ones eyesight, twenty years ago I could have seen the difference without glasses, now I need to use the +3.5 reading glasses to see the difference.
Once you know that there is a difference you will be able to spot it without glasses or magnifiers

/ Robin


About knowing the difference:
An old couple, let's call them Joe and Mary, married for about 45 years, were sitting in their living room at the table eating a nice lunch. Everything is nice and calm.

Then suddenly, Mary stands up and smacks Joe across the face. Mary then sits as if nothing happened. Joe is stunned and responds, "Jesus Mary! What was that for?"

"That's for 45 years of bad sex!!" Mary responds. They know the neighborhood could probably hear them, so they return to their lunch. After some quiet, Joe stands up and slaps Mary across her face and sits back down.

Mary, stunned, demands, "Jesus Joseph, What was that for?"

Joe responds, "That's for knowing the difference!"
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 03:05 AM UTC

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It depends on ones eyesight, twenty years ago I could have seen the difference without glasses, now I need to use the +3.5 reading glasses to see the difference.
Once you know that there is a difference you will be able to spot it without glasses or magnifiers

/ Robin


About knowing the difference:
An old couple, let's call them Joe and Mary, married for about 45 years, were sitting in their living room at the table eating a nice lunch. Everything is nice and calm.

Then suddenly, Mary stands up and smacks Joe across the face. Mary then sits as if nothing happened. Joe is stunned and responds, "Jesus Mary! What was that for?"

"That's for 25 years of bad sex!!" Mary responds. They know the neighborhood could probably hear them, so they return to their lunch. After some quite, Joe stands up and slaps Mary across her face and sits back down.

Mary, stunned, demands, "Jesus Joseph, What was that for?"

Joe responds, "That's for knowing the difference!"



That was funny.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 - 11:57 AM UTC
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