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Dr. Who Land Rover
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 02:24 PM UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZXGIUyLRE

I have wondered which model of Land Rover is this one.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 02:41 PM UTC
I don't know which model it is, but it would make a cool build, wish I hand a better look at the U.N.I.T decal. Be cool if the plates said Bad Wolf.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 03:50 PM UTC
I believe it's a Series 3 88in wheel base. Monogram produced a kit back in the 70's. Left hand drive with a hard top in 1/24 scale.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 05:31 PM UTC

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I believe it's a Series 3 88in wheel base. Monogram produced a kit back in the 70's. Left hand drive with a hard top in 1/24 scale.



I think ITALERI 3660 is coming back out this year in 1/24

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2019/01/preview-of-italeris-catalogue-new-items.html#more
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 06:10 PM UTC
Hi, it is a series3 canopy trucktop. Italeri do a swries 3 109 in 1/35. Azimut do a conversion to make an 88 trucktopm itus dor the tamiya seriea 2a but might be possiblw to make it fit.
Regarda Jason
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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 - 08:30 PM UTC
Plus several braztrillion for the monster
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 12:14 AM UTC

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Hi, it is a series3 canopy trucktop. Italeri do a swries 3 109 in 1/35. Azimut do a conversion to make an 88 trucktopm itus dor the tamiya seriea 2a but might be possiblw to make it fit.
Regarda Jason


Great! I happen to have a 1/35 Revell Series 3 kit, and a Hornet head that looks very much like The Master. I assume the color is Depp Bronze Green in the video?
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 01:19 AM UTC
Seeing that clip made me sad, RIP Nicholas Courtney and Elisabeth Sladen.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 06:27 AM UTC

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I believe it's a Series 3 88in wheel base. Monogram produced a kit back in the 70's. Left hand drive with a hard top in 1/24 scale.



I think ITALERI 3660 is coming back out this year in 1/24

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2019/01/preview-of-italeris-catalogue-new-items.html#more



Thank you for the link. The IVECO Lince crew looks cool.

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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 07:08 AM UTC

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I don't know which model it is, but it would make a cool build, wish I hand a better look at the U.N.I.T decal. Be cool if the plates said Bad Wolf.
Vince



It is this version


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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 10:57 AM UTC
https://m.facebook.com/alx35/photos/a.615487295159482/615583521816526/?type=3&source=44&ref=page_internal
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 02:47 PM UTC
We need something bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 06:16 PM UTC

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We need something bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.



It's an idea: Maybe somebody could sell an exterior-only TARDIS kit that - like Meng's King Tiger - has an add-on interior that comes in a further eighty boxes.

I can imagine the modelling forums: "I encountered a few fit issues..."
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 08:27 PM UTC

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We need something bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.



LOL, the same thought occurred to me.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 - 11:15 PM UTC
Series 3, yes. The registration - 16DM33 - is a red herring; this should be a Series 2A FFR, but is neither.
It's clearly a civilian vehicle "militarised" as a film prop; look at the bumpers. Military LRs had a special pusher bumper installed at the front, with bumperettes at the rear.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC

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Series 3, yes. The registration - 16DM33 - is a red herring; this should be a Series 2A FFR, but is neither.
It's clearly a civilian vehicle "militarised" as a film prop; look at the bumpers. Military LRs had a special pusher bumper installed at the front, with bumperettes at the rear.


Not really a surprise; Dr. Who was not known for having a large budget. In "The Giant Robot" they even used a toy tank.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 12:53 AM UTC
Yes, “The Giant Robot” used an “Action Man” Scorpion tank, albeit very briefly.

The monster in the episode shown was, I believe, a glove puppet - it’s particularly evident in the last part of that story, where it attacks London and you only ever see the arm, er, the head and neck, appearing above the Embnkment on the Thames.

I started work on a decal sheet for 1/35 Landrovers in fall last year - plan is/was to include a variety of markings, mainly for real-world vehicles (For 1/35 Italeri/Revell series 3, both vanilla and w BSM/Minor mine-protected variants, plus Hobbyboss WMIK, and I’d planned to throw in some U.N.I.T. door logos if space permitted) but that’s in limbo right now due to some real-world stuff. Hope to get back on it in mid-late March.

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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 01:00 AM UTC

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Not really a surprise; Dr. Who was not known for having a large budget. In "The Giant Robot" they even used a toy tank.



In "the Magician's Apprentice" the Doctor (Peter Capaldi) rides a Chieftain tank while playing an electric guitar.
Great diorama idea.
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 05:16 AM UTC
Yes early Series III 88" with the old style 'non-deluxe' bonnet. The 1/35 Italeri Land Rovers are 109" long wheelbases and have incorrect 6 stud wheel hubs (should be 5) and deeper deluxe bonnets.

The Tamiya land rovers are SIIa but also have the deluxe bonnet, so whichever kit you choose there are changes to make if you want to model the Dr Who Land Rover. I was making a replica of my old SIIa 88 using the Tamiya kit - will try and dig out a photo or two!
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 07:09 AM UTC

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We need something bigger on the inside than it is on the outside.




… or smaller on the outside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6uGx7kf4Ng


Few people really understand how tight the budget was for Dr Who. A perfect example is the humanoid Krynoid from The Seeds of Death. The production budget was so tight that they ran out of money before they finished filming, so a costume used in the Claws of Axos was resurrected and had plastic strips added to it, then it was spray painted green, as there were no funds to create something new.

Even from the outset, the budget was tight. When William Hartnell fluffed a line they just kept going with it; they could not afford the cost of retakes! (his ailing health and the frequency of such issues was the reason for the first change in Doctor)

Laugh as we might now, you also have to remember special effects were very primitive 40 + years ago. Even more so in the 60's. Take The Zarbi as an example. An ant suit where human legs are clearly evident. Then there was another creature in that story that was a cockroach like thing, with fronds hanging down from the carapace. In some shots you can see the arm and leg of the person crawling around with the costume on his back.



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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 10:55 AM UTC

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Yes early Series III 88" with the old style 'non-deluxe' bonnet. The 1/35 Italeri Land Rovers are 109" long wheelbases and have incorrect 6 stud wheel hubs (should be 5) and deeper deluxe bonnets.

The Tamiya land rovers are SIIa but also have the deluxe bonnet, so whichever kit you choose there are changes to make if you want to model the Dr Who Land Rover. I was making a replica of my old SIIa 88 using the Tamiya kit - will try and dig out a photo or two!



I wondered if any of the DEF Model replacement wheels would work, or if they are too modern:

http://www.defmodel.com/
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 09:47 PM UTC
Def models wheels are too new. They are for coilsprung land rovers and the tyres are of patterns introduced in the 80's/90's.
Axcurate armour do a good set and they are designed for both Italeri and Tamiya.

The British military did use stock s3 swb landrovers
. I remember seeing some in Weymouth in the early 1980's. Truck tops were sometimes used by the Royal Marines but were,I think all lwb. It is not too much of a stretch to think they used a few swb.

There is a Spanish company thet make swb s2a landies but i have lost the weblink for them. They did make hardtops, softtops and trucktops and maybe still do.

Regards Jason
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Posted: Thursday, February 14, 2019 - 11:19 PM UTC

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Def models wheels are too new. They are for coilsprung land rovers and the tyres are of patterns introduced in the 80's/90's.
Axcurate armour do a good set and they are designed for both Italeri and Tamiya.

The British military did use stock s3 swb landrovers
. I remember seeing some in Weymouth in the early 1980's. Truck tops were sometimes used by the Royal Marines but were,I think all lwb. It is not too much of a stretch to think they used a few swb.

There is a Spanish company thet make swb s2a landies but i have lost the weblink for them. They did make hardtops, softtops and trucktops and maybe still do.

Regards Jason

And besides the DEF Model ones wouldn't fit the Italeri Rover anyway. I suppose we could use one of the later Rovers if it came to that; the Time Lords are time travelers anyway.
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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 12:30 AM UTC

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Def models wheels are too new. They are for coilsprung land rovers and the tyres are of patterns introduced in the 80's/90's.
Axcurate armour do a good set and they are designed for both Italeri and Tamiya.

The British military did use stock s3 swb landrovers
. I remember seeing some in Weymouth in the early 1980's. Truck tops were sometimes used by the Royal Marines but were,I think all lwb. It is not too much of a stretch to think they used a few swb.

There is a Spanish company thet make swb s2a landies but i have lost the weblink for them. They did make hardtops, softtops and trucktops and maybe still do.

Regards Jason



Could it have been ALX/35 or Cournil or whatever the name is?
https://cournil35.blogs.sapo.pt/

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Posted: Friday, February 15, 2019 - 03:38 AM UTC
BSM makes a set of 1/35 Landy Series 2/3 Wheels (352003). Here's a link to their page: http://www.minor-web.com/BSM.html .
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