_GOTOBOTTOM
Armor/AFV: Softskins
Softskins group discussions.
Hosted by Darren Baker
M1083 with tank and pump unit
HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 06:40 PM UTC
Hi Gang,
I came across this pic:

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5558700/operation-hickory-sting-nc-guard-soldiers-load-up-and-move-out-ntc-exercise

Do anyone know how much of these were converted? Are there more pics to find? I guess the proposed M1091 FMTV fuel tanker with HEMTT tank and pump is cancelled?
HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 06:47 PM UTC
One more tanker from NTC training.

https://www.dvidshub.net/image/5561111/operation-hickory-sting

Anyone takes the challenge?
Frenchy
Visit this Community
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 07:33 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Anyone takes the challenge?



http://members.toast.net/toledoplasticmodelers/gallery/JA/M1083.htm

H.P.
HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 07:38 PM UTC
I was refering to the HEMTT, not the FMTV.

What is this True Models he used?
BTW Whats the designation of the fuel tank on the M1076 trailer?
Frenchy
Visit this Community
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 09:25 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I was refering to the HEMTT, not the FMTV.



So why did you mention the M1083 in the post title ?

I guess this trailer is part of the Modular Fuel System (MFS) :

https://www.leonardodrs.com/media/6278/mfs_datasheet.pdf

Here's a similar one :



H.P.
HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 10:04 PM UTC
BTW The fuel tank/pump unit from PSM could only be used with mods. the filler cap of the tank is different.
Frenchy
Visit this Community
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 10:24 PM UTC
I guess the PSM (or the MMK) tanks are 600 gallon models :



whereas those with recessed fillers are 500 gallon ones :


H.P.
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 10:49 PM UTC
(This is probably obvious to all but here goes . . . . )

The trailer mounted modular fuel tank (a tank rack) is a containerized fuel storage/dispensing unit and can be loaded/unloaded off the M1076 trailer by a HEMTT with LHS (Load Handling Equipment),

There is also a containerized water tank version (also referred to as a tank rack) with pump and purification equipment called a Hippo.





HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 01:58 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I guess the PSM (or the MMK) tanks are 600 gallon models :



whereas those with recessed fillers are 500 gallon ones :


H.P.



Damn, Frenchy, now I have to go back to the drawing board..

Hmmm... the best way (not the cheapest) is to get 4 tanks, cut them horizontal and glue the two upper halves together.
40 Euros for Trumpeter M1083
plus
76 Euros for two PSM tank sets
plus
40 Euros for Legend FMTV update
Frenchy
Visit this Community
Rhone, France
Joined: December 02, 2002
KitMaker: 12,719 posts
Armorama: 12,507 posts
Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 07:11 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Damn, Frenchy, now I have to go back to the drawing board..



Maybe the TM would help ?

https://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-10-4930-236-13-and-P.pdf

H.P.
HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 01:51 PM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Damn, Frenchy, now I have to go back to the drawing board..



Maybe the TM would help ?

https://www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-10-4930-236-13-and-P.pdf

H.P.



Definitly, Thank you.
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 07:23 PM UTC
That is a M1076 container handling trailer with 20' fuel container on board.


Photo by "Milepost 49 Productions"

165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 07:38 PM UTC
Not sure if your primary interest is the FMTV unit or the HEMTT but I was driving down the interstate a few days ago and look what was sitting in a rest stop chained to a flatbed trailer.

Based on this thread I HAD to pull over and snap some photos!







165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 07:41 PM UTC




HermannB
Visit this Community
Bayern, Germany
Joined: October 14, 2008
KitMaker: 4,099 posts
Armorama: 4,067 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 09:15 PM UTC
Hi Michael,
nice pics. It proves that I need to add another MTV model to my collection. Oooh, my poor wallet...
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 09:27 PM UTC
As you can imagine, after seeing your thread to come across that vehicle sitting there was like a minor miracle. I had to stop and take photos.

Hope the pixs help in some way.
GTDeath13
Visit this Community
Attica, Greece / Ελλάδα
Joined: June 12, 2015
KitMaker: 921 posts
Armorama: 919 posts
Posted: Friday, August 16, 2019 - 10:53 PM UTC
Great photos!!! Many thanks for sharing these.
SoftskinFan
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: January 30, 2017
KitMaker: 110 posts
Armorama: 102 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 12:52 AM UTC
Why don't I ever see stuff like that? Really nice! I have a Guard unit near me but seldom see them on the road. Thanks for the pics, everyone!
And that HEMTT pic on the train has me over-excited. I need to build my Italeri M978 tanker, but it's the old one with the crappy wheels/tires. Not sure about resin replacements.
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:00 AM UTC
Resin replacements for the HEMTT tires are easily found but I personally don't find the Italeri tires all that bad.

It might however be time to buy the new Trumpeter HEMTT kit and swap the fuel truck shell over from the old Italeri. But just know; the Italeri model CAN be upgraded to match or exceed the Trumpeter offering but it is going to take a lot of work! AND a pre-painted cab interior from Eduard, a SINGARS radio from the Shapeways 3D site as well as a set of brake cylinders also from Shapeways and maybe even a full resin engine from Plus Models if you are feeling particularly energetic!

________________________________________

The view behind those big closed doors on the HEMTT fuel browser:



165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:18 AM UTC
Gary; As for how I find some of these photos; I happen to live at the junction of I-75 and I-64 in Kentucky. It seems like there are always small lots of military equipment moving through on flatbed trucks. That and Guard Convoy movements.

I would have even more photos but it is kind of hard to shoot a moving convoy when you are alone in the truck and having to drive.
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:21 AM UTC
The stock Italeri HEMTT wheels and tires: _______________

.

Pre-painted Eduard control panel and placard set: _______________

.

3D printed SINGARS modular radio: _______________

.

Full resin engine: _______________

SoftskinFan
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: January 30, 2017
KitMaker: 110 posts
Armorama: 102 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:32 AM UTC
I consider those the "new" HEMTT tires, which I would be thrilled with. My tanker has the injected tires that came with the original Italeri M977. They are pretty bad by comparison. That interior also looks pretty sweet!
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:38 AM UTC
Sorry I forgot that little detail - yes you are right of course, Italeri upgraded their tires a few years back.

Perhaps all the more reason in invest in a Trumpeter HEMTT and move the Italeri fuel tank over to it!
165thspc
#521
Visit this Community
Kentucky, United States
Joined: April 13, 2011
KitMaker: 9,465 posts
Armorama: 8,695 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:41 AM UTC
Way more info (bordering on the insane) on upgrading the Italeri HEMTT over at:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/250147
SoftskinFan
Visit this Community
Georgia, United States
Joined: January 30, 2017
KitMaker: 110 posts
Armorama: 102 posts
Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 01:47 AM UTC
Thanks! I am more of an out of the box builder, and I have built both the Italeri and Trumpeter HEMTTs. I hate to "waste" a kit by bashing, but I'll check it out. And I didn't mean to hijack your thread, Hans. Sorry!
 _GOTOTOP