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Posted: Monday, December 16, 2019 - 10:55 PM UTC


Border Model announces their first set of figures, a crew and infantry man for a Panzer IV

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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 04:25 AM UTC
Anybody notice something funny about the crew figs? They're on stilts, or have giraffe legs?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 05:06 AM UTC

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Anybody notice something funny about the crew figs? They're on stilts, or have giraffe legs?



Yup, the legs do look too long as if they are on high heels.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 07:57 AM UTC
Nope, disagree. If anything they look very thin, but then again I think that's suited to the time. Not many fatso's in the panzer crews.

I think the main issue with them is the trousers are not sculpted baggy enough, These look more like skinny jeans than the very full panzer trousers, which needed plenty of room for crew members to bend, twist and navigate within the small space inside a tank.

If anything most resin and even plastic figures produced today sculpt them more by today's standards of body form/weight whilst it was different in the 1940's.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 08:33 AM UTC
They are in proportion, but those pants just aren't baggy enough like Alan says.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 09:39 AM UTC
I like them. Their legs will be inside anyway.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 10:16 AM UTC
I like them too. I actually dislike the over done, often way too thick and rounded baggy pants you so often see.

They even have that “reedoak” feeling to me. Imho very realistic sculpts.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 10:39 AM UTC

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Anybody notice something funny about the crew figs? They're on stilts, or have giraffe legs?


The proportions are very odd, like the illustrations used in fashion design and movie posters (or Renaissance paintings of the saints). The heads are only about 10% of the figure's height, which is very disproportionate. The extra length is in the lower torso, apparently--nothing a razor saw couldn't fix.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 03:30 AM UTC

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The proportions are very odd, like the illustrations used in fashion design and movie posters (or Renaissance paintings of the saints).


They just Aryan Beasts that Nietzsche would swoon over.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 04:17 AM UTC
The final picture suggests they are intended to be HJ personnel. This would explain the gawky proportions if they are supposed to be teenagers, also the lack of material in the suits, they are not Black Panzer Clothing but Camouflaged denims. These were cut tighter to save cloth. Only problem here is that most HJ crews wore the ex-Italian Navy leather clothing.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 - 10:43 AM UTC
I think them being "skinny works out pretty well if they are going to be in the hatches. can't tell you how many figures I've had to butcher to get their legs to fit into a Dragon Pz 3 or 4 tank commanders hatch. Especially if you use the kit vision blocks.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2019 - 08:03 AM UTC
Actually the issue shouldn't be whether the crew are thin or not; the real issue is that they are far too tall for tank crew. Most crew members were selected on the basis of their height and ability to operate effectively within a cramped space; these long-legged fashion models in their skinny jeans simply won't make it. They're almost a silly caricature with their meter+ long legs. That being said its nothing a razor saw couldn't handle. The infantry man seems fine, on the other hand.
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