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WWII Uniform badges Question
Brad-M
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Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 06:55 AM UTC
Guys,

I am building a Sherman III from the Sherbrooke Fusiliers and besides the regiment badge of the shoulders of the battle dress, what other patches/badges would there be on their uniforms?

TIA

Brad
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 06:02 AM UTC
So no one knows? Thanks anyway.
Tojo72
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 06:14 AM UTC
Uh I don't know
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 06:39 AM UTC
Brad,

I've come up with the following (from top of the sleeve to the bottom); I must add I could not see any evidence of the Regimental badge on the shoulders/sleeves of the uniform:

a. Composite badge following the curve of the shoulder seam with "Sherbrooke Fusilier Regiment" and incorporated into the same cloth badge "Canada". White lettering on what I would say is a Beech Brown colour. All in capitals.

b. Formation sign of 2nd Independent Canadian Armoured Brigade. best described perhaps as a lozenge/diamond; black with an equidistant purple line through the centre (horizontally) - in other words all colours in equal parts.

c. Rank stripes or lack thereof; Warrant Officer ranks on the lower sleeve, as are:

d. Good Conduct and Long Service chevrons.

e. Trade badges worn either upper or lower dependent on what specialism.

I would just add that if this is for a crew member for your Sherman in all probability they would be wearing coveralls with probably just the rank shown.

Anyway, 'hope this helps.

Brian

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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 06:46 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Brad,

I've come up with the following (from top of the sleeve to the bottom); I must add I could not see any evidence of the Regimental badge on the shoulders/sleeves of the uniform:

a. Composite badge following the curve of the shoulder seam with "Sherbrooke Fusilier Regiment" and incorporated into the same cloth badge "Canada". White lettering on what I would say is a Beech Brown colour. All in capitals.

b. Formation sign of 2nd Independent Canadian Armoured Brigade. best described perhaps as a lozenge/diamond; black with an equidistant purple line through the centre (horizontally) - in other words all colours in equal parts.

c. Rank stripes or lack thereof; Warrant Officer ranks on the lower sleeve, as are:

d. Good Conduct and Long Service chevrons.

e. Trade badges worn either upper or lower dependent on what specialism.

I would just add that if this is for a crew member for your Sherman in all probability they would be wearing coveralls with probably just the rank shown.

Anyway, 'hope this helps.

Brian




Postscript/Amendment: The central bar of the coloured formation sign may have been blue, not purple.
RLlockie
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Posted: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 - 06:48 AM UTC
In Normandy, the Sherbrookes were part of 2Cdn AB so you could reasonably deduce that they would wear the formation sign of that unit. Probably also a curved shoulder title (yellow on maroon, reading ‘SHERBROOKE FUSILIERS REGIMENT’ over ‘CANADA’). Not sure if they used the RAC flash as well. BD was likely to be of the greenish Canadian type.

Not all units used all insignia, particularly in action. Photographs are your best guide for that unless you happen to have regimental orders.

Any help? Sorry I’m no sort of expert on Canadian insignia so I had to look all this up.
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 03:54 AM UTC

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Not all units used all insignia, particularly in action.


Agreed! According to accounts, many Commonwealth units removed any insignia, except for rank, so if they were captured the Germans wouldn't know which units were in the line. Although I don't know if this also applies to armoured units as their tanks had obvious unit markings.
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 06:42 AM UTC
The tanks certainly had unit markings but they didn’t say ‘Sherbrooke Fusiliers’ on them! I think the idea was less to avoid giving away information if captured than being more visible to snipers actually. A sniper might reasonably conclude that someone with more badges might be a more worthy target, as they might be someone who spends less time in the front line and therefore more important to the big picture.
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Posted: Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 03:33 PM UTC
Thank You.

Brad
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