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Kencelot
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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 05:11 AM UTC
Just thought you all might like to know (if you don't already) that Tamiya rereleased their M3 Stuart Lt. Tank and the M5A1 Stuart along with others. Also Revell of Germany has some new releases of NATO vehicles.
ChrisCarney
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 03:32 AM UTC
Thanks for the info Kencelot, I'll have to check those out. Not that I would build them (not german), but I do like looking at all the new kits coming out. Who knows, someday I may turn into a collaborator and come over to the allied side. Thanks again. Chris (Tiger 1) Carney. :-)
GunTruck
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 06:13 AM UTC
:-) Tiger 1, run to the light, run to the light...

It's the big white star, second door to the right...

Jim
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 06:20 AM UTC
Jim,
LOL....too funny.

I love Allied vehicles. Something about that ole olive drab.

Jim
Kencelot
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 06:56 AM UTC
If it ain't OD green it ain't for me! Just wish the manufactures would see it that way! Tooooooo many German subjects. Some even very obscure. It always fascinated me, the incredible popularity of German models as opposed to all others combined.
Oh well , maybe one day it will reverse. :-)
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 06:58 AM UTC
One can never have too many OD green Shermans.
E23C
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 12:47 PM UTC
M3 and M5 Very good news indeed :-) M3 in particular was one of my favourite Tamiya kits years ago.
drewgimpy
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 03:16 PM UTC
I agree on the amount of German armor compared to American. The first time I went into the hobby shop when I got back into models, I asked one of the clerks "we did win the war didn't we?" when we where both looking at all the armor models. He thought is was pretty funny but maybe you had to be there. I know the Germans had better armor and many more types of it but I would like to see more of ours. Thats my $.02 on the subject.
Sabot
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Posted: Thursday, January 31, 2002 - 09:21 PM UTC

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I know the Germans had better armor and many more types of it..

Therein lies the problem. As a tanker who now lives in the logistical world, the more different pieces of equipment out there, the more types of spare parts you need and different mechanics to support these pieces. Germany didn't have the motorization of their supply lines to the same extent the US had. Apart from their panzer units and panzer grenadiers, the majority of their rear area troops and supplies was horse drawn. Very supceptable to roaming fighter aircraft armed with .50 cal machine guns. Plus the Sherman and Stuart tanks were very mechanically sound, hardly ever broke down. German tanks, on the other hand, were mechanical nightmares. Of course, as a captured German officer once said, "One of our tanks is worth 10 of yours, but you always have 11." We just had a lot more tanks.
Kencelot
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2002 - 05:13 AM UTC
Yes, but!! there are plenty of US armor pieces that none of the major manufactures are bothering to produce. Like:

M19, M40, M43,M2, M6 which was the first heavy tank, never saw action ( I bet most don't even know it existed) but unlike German protos it probably won't ever be on a shelf. So many more trucks and trackors and trailers and wreckers and field guns and...etc
Phew, sorry, I had to get it out.
Sabot
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2002 - 06:56 AM UTC
Yes, but remember, most of those were proven failures. With the German prototypes, modelers can "pretend" that they may have been put into action. I'd like to see an M-22 Locust or a DD M-24 Chaffee.
ArmouredSprue
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2002 - 06:36 PM UTC
Sometimes these re-releases are very good, for example the M 41 Walker Bulldog from Tamiya, a good kit at affordable price, and plenty of subjects to do (it remembers me that I don't get on my collection.... )
Cheers
Sabot
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2002 - 09:42 PM UTC

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Sometimes these re-releases are very good, for example the M 41 Walker Bulldog from Tamiya, a good kit at affordable price

Plus it is the only game in town. Unless you count the old Renwal/Revell/Matchbox one. I for one, would like to see the SkyBow kit of the M-41 when it comes out, but still enjoy the Tamiya kit.
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