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Henk
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 02:50 PM UTC
Bob Card shows in detail how he recreated a moment in history.



If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
wbill76
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 03:24 PM UTC
Wow Bob, you've really outdone yourself with this one...right down to the shooting distance! Very well done in execution and making this one "personal".
Cuhail
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:31 PM UTC

Hey, that's nice. Good ambush! Are there future plans of adding another building face/side where the fencing is? Maybe a backdrop? Give 'er some depth?

Anyway, the modeling is top notch. It does give the feeling of "A moment in time".

Cuhail
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:20 PM UTC
There's something special about good historical dioramas as they give a real feeling of what war and combat was like.

Well done Bob this is a great story and well built diorama.

Chas
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:26 PM UTC
Great work Bob and it is all the better for all the supporting pictures that you used for reference. No wonder when building dioramas of this size that you need to make some room on the book shelves, and as Chas says there is something about historical accurate dioramas that draw the viewer in.
AmiPolizeiFunk
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 08:21 PM UTC
Pretty sweet
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 09:50 PM UTC
Thanks for sharing Bob.

What a riveting story, what excellent research, and what an awesome Diorama.

Cheers

Paul
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 12:37 AM UTC
Great Story, great Dio. A real moment in time. Thanks for sharing one of your dads war experience's with us , very special
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 01:40 AM UTC
Hi
That's a very nice diorama that you have there.
Also a very interesting story to go with it. thanks for sharing.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:26 AM UTC
Hey, he actually finished it! That was my first reaction when i saw your dio.

Well done Bob! Thumbs up also for a very detaled written feature.

Cheers
Claude

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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 05:21 AM UTC
Excellent dio and article, thanks for sharing
BobCard
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 05:37 AM UTC
Thanks everyone for the kind words.
Thank you Henk for the great way you put it together.
It was a great learning experience for me and most of the credit goes to Bob Holt and a very deserving thank you to his Dad for his service. Bob I don't know what happened to you but I still would like to donate this, let me know.
I've already had to re-attach the Tiger fenders; my Granddaughter thought it was cute. And between her, my dogs and SWMBO's cleaning habits I don't know how many more times I have to reattach those damn electrical lines.

My problem is I build for my own pleasure. I’d never be able to take these to a show and I do believe they have size restrictions when judging.

I'm already into my 4th month for my diorama on the Peleliu Campaign, don't know how I'm putting that one together as yet and I still have 7 move vehicles to construct. 90% complete on the LVT (A) 1, and M4A2 with dozer Co A, still need to make another M4A2 Company B, LVT (A) 4, LVT 2, LVT (A) 2 with amphibious trailer, US Army Dukw in USMC Service, LVT 4 Flame Throwing version, 75mm Gun Motor Carriage and one heck of a lot of Marines. I also have changed the diorama setup more then I would have liked. It’s like 11 different stories all rolled into one, the reasoning behind this is that they all happened at around the same time so it’s like building an interconnecting diorama all on the invasion beaches on D-Day. Sorry all another story.
I will be studying a lot of your examples for tropical veggies Chas.


“Hey, that's nice. Good ambush! Are there future plans of adding another building face/side where the fencing is? Maybe a backdrop? Give 'er some depth?
Cuhail “

The limitations are that on the other side of the fence was a garden and a 3 story building further back, the garden would be the harder of the 2. The back drop idea is a good one but I do not have anything capable of making it.
Actually I was thinking about adding another M4 #13 to the street side that #11 is on, Mr. Holt reported that he was witnessing a ground troop attack on this tank from where they sat waiting for the Tiger and that they were opening up with Thompson’s from #13 to push back the Germans from their tank. Now that would be a great addition.

I'm glad everyone is enjoying the story, it's a very interesting one that needs to be remembered.
Thank you all again and I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas,
Bob

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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:15 AM UTC
An awesome diorama--research, procedure, modeling, execution, an exceptional piece of work!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:43 AM UTC
Fanfreakin'tastic!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 01:36 PM UTC
Great to see this published. I remember seeing this one take shape. Very nice, I like to see a historical connection.
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Posted: Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 07:04 AM UTC
Great diorama. Very nice details and really excellent background history.

Thanks for sharing
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Posted: Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 07:47 AM UTC
Very nice work, congrats it looks good and I like the choice of subject.
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Posted: Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 12:59 PM UTC
hi bob, wow...very nice. i like the historical facts and details of your work. and the photography is perfect..the eye level shot and the sight waiting to fire on the tiger is beautifully done. seconds on making a history. thanks for sharing. ed

thanks henk for the thread. ed
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 12:03 PM UTC
Very-very nice!
Very qualitative work..
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Posted: Friday, December 26, 2008 - 03:32 PM UTC
Super interesting story and depiction.




BobCard
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:56 AM UTC
Thanks again everyone for the great replys,
Bob
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 02:03 AM UTC
Hi Bob,

Great tribute and a cracking dio. Excellent stuff.

Al
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Posted: Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 03:00 PM UTC
A bit late catching this feature, but it is very well done. It catches all the details of the story very well, while the layout focuses on the action. Nicely done.
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 03:25 AM UTC
I read over the write up and looked over the photos of the build and WWII after the action. Let me add my compliments on a job well done and great write up.

As mentioned in the write up, the Tiger's main gun was in full recoil.out of battery. If one did look at the photo without researching the back ground, it does look as the crew destroyed the tank, not knock out from combat. In the book Tigers in Combat I, it did mentioned the loss of Tiger 211 in combat, but no details.

So how did the main gun get into its after action 'out of battery?' Were there any ammunition 'cook offs' after the Tiger was on fire? One possiblity is the recoil fluid leaked out from the hits and then the round in the main gun breach went off from the fire and the main gun went into full recoil.

An idea for a follow on diorama is to have the knock out Tiger with the Sherman crew member in front of it getting his photo taken, as in the picture.
BobCard
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Posted: Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 09:24 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I read over the write up and looked over the photos of the build and WWII after the action. Let me add my compliments on a job well done and great write up.

As mentioned in the write up, the Tiger's main gun was in full recoil.out of battery. If one did look at the photo without researching the back ground, it does look as the crew destroyed the tank, not knock out from combat. In the book Tigers in Combat I, it did mentioned the loss of Tiger 211 in combat, but no details.

So how did the main gun get into its after action 'out of battery?' Were there any ammunition 'cook offs' after the Tiger was on fire? One possiblity is the recoil fluid leaked out from the hits and then the round in the main gun breach went off from the fire and the main gun went into full recoil.

An idea for a follow on diorama is to have the knock out Tiger with the Sherman crew member in front of it getting his photo taken, as in the picture.



First thanks Alan, Kent and Duane for the comments.

Duane, The ammo did cook off, In one of the photos of 221 you can see a 2inch gap on the deck plate where it seperated. The idea of making an after Tiger is a good one because of the excellent photos. Just way to much to do with so little time.

Thanks again everyone for taking the time to comment,
Bob