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Pzkpfw II Ausf C Polish Campaign
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 03:17 AM UTC
Bill Plunk reviews Tamiya''s "Pzkpfw II C Polish Campaign."



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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:27 AM UTC
The usual excellence we expect from you, Bill. Nice review!
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:37 AM UTC
I will second that. Very nice and informative review. Thanks, Bill.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 03:00 PM UTC
Thanks gents for the comments. I'll start the Build Log thread for this one tomorrow, already got some work done on it tonight but have to get the photos together first.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:29 PM UTC
Thanks Bill. I've been looking forward to your review of this kit, and now to your build - with it on special from LM at the moment can't resist picking the kit up

Rudi
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:52 PM UTC
So is this a completely newly tooled kit ? I've got the olf Tamiya Ausf F/G with the DAK figures which only cost something like $10 USD, this one sells here for the equivalent of $40 USD so has to be a serious improvement to make it worthwhile.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 04:59 PM UTC
I agree Rudi! That's how it came into my possession as well.


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So is this a completely newly tooled kit ? I've got the olf Tamiya Ausf F/G with the DAK figures which only cost something like $10 USD, this one sells here for the equivalent of $40 USD so has to be a serious improvement to make it worthwhile.



Dean,

Yes, this is a completely newly tooled kit. It has nothing in common with the earlier Pz II F/G kit or the Wespe or Marder II kits either for that matter. The figures also are a new set with the sprues stamped with a (c) 2008 even though the equipment sprue is the same molds from the '90s, so my guess is that they too are all new tooled for this package. The French Campaign kit didn't include figures aside from the vehicle commander. Unlike the previous Pz II based kits, this one comes with link-and-length tracks vs vinyl one-piece and doesn't have any of the motorization holes from the II F/G for example. The detail on the molding is light years ahead of the '70s era molding on the Pz II F/G kit in every respect IMHO and, of course, it's a II-C with specific and correct Polish campaign features and markings. I got mine for $18 and change from LuckyModel so it truly was a good deal that I couldn't pass up under the circumstances. The MSRP is showing for this one with US retailers for $39 so it sounds like you're getting those kinds of prices if you're buying local.
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Posted: Friday, June 12, 2009 - 08:14 PM UTC
Hi Bill. Thanks for that, look forward to following the build.
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:37 PM UTC
Hi Bill,

As I mentioned to you offline I've ordered this kit, but in doing some light research I came across reference to Ausf c and Ausf C - apparently these are different models. Would I be correct in saying that this kit is an Ausf c? So would be fine for representing a vehicle from PzAbt zbV 40 during Operation "Weseruebung"?

Rudi
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 07:36 AM UTC

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Hi Bill,

As I mentioned to you offline I've ordered this kit, but in doing some light research I came across reference to Ausf c and Ausf C - apparently these are different models. Would I be correct in saying that this kit is an Ausf c? So would be fine for representing a vehicle from PzAbt zbV 40 during Operation "Weseruebung"?



Rudi,

There are differences, albeit small, between the "c" and the "C". The "c" was the first production variant and the only real differences between the c/A/B/C that are externally visible deal with the number of bolts and style of the armored visors for the crew. The Polish Campaign kit, unlike the French Campaign, is meant to be a "C". The irony is that the earlier type visors for the c/A/B are still there on the sprues so you could do this one as a "c" if you wanted to simply by swapping out the visors. HTH!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
Thanks Bill! That does indeed help. The kit arrived yesterday, but it'll be a while before I get to it - will leave a note in the box about the visors
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 07:51 AM UTC
Glad to be of service! It's a fun little kit, you'll have a blast with it when the time comes.