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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2013 - 09:52 AM UTC
Some pages back we covered CCKWs converted to Railroad Locomotives in the UK prior to D-Day.

Here is a photo of one more, a significantly different solution to the identical design problem. C |:-)

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zAQrj2DNNKy3lCZsVgCRgdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite
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Posted: Friday, June 21, 2013 - 09:55 AM UTC

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FANTASTIC SHOT ! ! ! ! ! and look at all those bicycles stowed all over the vehicle and the trailers!
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 02:49 PM UTC

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OK, MORE deuces : It is equally confusing to me why no short wheelbase deuce has ever been produced in 1/35 as much as why no closed cab?


Both photos by Mike Koenig

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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 03:12 PM UTC

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OK, MORE deuces : It is equally confusing to me why no short wheelbase deuce has ever been produced in 1/35 as much as why no closed cab?



Both photos by Mike Koenig




Mike! Regarding your post referring to no 1/35 Short Wheelbase GMC CCKW 352 2.5 tonner being available- REAL MODELS of Germany makes/made? a resin kit to convert the ITALERI/TAMIYA CCKW 353 to a CCKW 352 "short" Jimmy. My conversion kit still sits inside one of my TAMIYA 2.5-tonner kits... I may get an extra 2 or 3 ITALERI 2.5s and use my extra TAMIYA 2.5s for kit-bashing. The part number of the REAL MODELS CCKW 352 is: RM35055... If that conversion kit is still available, I'm going to pick up one more set, plus use a hard cab. Maybe I'll set it up to tow one of my "early" M1A1 105mm howitzers with the taller tires and wheels. (only 2 lightening holes per wheel)
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 04:23 PM UTC
Been following this thread off and on for a few months.
Lots of nice builds lots of information on scratch building and some good points about the manufacturers.
When you think about ww2 the vehicles that come to mind most is the Jeep, 2 1/2 ton truck and the sherman tank. Manufacturers make every version of the Sherman you can think of or they make kits of every odd-ball German tank or vehicles and some manufacturers main sales come from aircraft .
I would love to see more soft skin vehicles, Jeeps, 3/4ton, 2 1/2ton in 1/35scale ,1/24 or 1/16 scale, will I, I'm not holding breath I'll pass out first.
Hey in closing I would like to say my next build will be a 2 1/2 ton truck.
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 05:44 PM UTC
Masters Productions has released a CCKW 352 conversion set as well :



It's the one Tony Fradkin used for his project :
www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/jimmy/4106

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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 05:55 PM UTC
Yes, this conversion kit is available through Scale-Link in the UK. They ship internationally.

This same line also has Long and short wheelbase tarps for the Deuce, enclosed cabs, driver figures, etc.

Highly recommended!
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Posted: Saturday, June 22, 2013 - 06:26 PM UTC

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Yes, this conversion kit is available through Scale-Link in the UK. They ship internationally.



Here's the link :

http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Masters_Productions_1_35_scale___WW2.html

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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 02:46 PM UTC

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Masters Productions has released a CCKW 352 conversion set as well :



It's the one Tony Fradkin used for his project :
www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/jimmy/4106

HTH

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Hi, All! Didn't know that MASTERS PRODUCTIONS make a "short" 2.5-ton Jimmy Conversion! That's GREAT!!! I built a MASTERS M4 Artillery Tractor about 6 years ago, before HOBBY BOSS came out with their versions, and also did 3 of their US "Long Tom" & 8" Howitzer WWII Wheels/Tires and Towing Dolly conversions! THEY MAKE SOME GREAT STUFF, THEY DO, UH-HUHHH!!!
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 03:02 PM UTC
Yes Masters does some fantastic work. I have purchased both of their tire conversion kits for the 155mm and 8 inch gun. A few of their parts ended up on my Mack NO and they are supplying the civilian pattern wheels and tires for my M-23 ammo trailer I am scratch building.
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Posted: Monday, June 24, 2013 - 03:07 PM UTC
I always figured I might purchase their short wheelbase Deuce conversion but then given what else I've done I also figured it is not a very tough chop job.

Of course I also figured by now someone would market the short AND long wheelbase in both closed and open cab versions.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 02:15 AM UTC
TWO AMERICANS: The Long wheelbase CCKW by GM and the 0-6-0 steam locomotive by H.K. Porter in the US:

Interesting that the CCKW has the open roof to accomodate the gun ring but no gun ring???

I have seen one converted CCKW firetruck from the period that also had the open roof but no gun ring. I guess during assembly at GM if they finished their 1/3 quota of AA equiped vehicles for the day it was just which ever cab came to the assembly line got installed on whatever frame???
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Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 - 08:58 AM UTC
Then we get into the COEs. (Cab Over Engine) Built on the same chassis as the LWB Deuce so the vehicle is the same overall length. However the cab and hood take up less space so the load box can be that much longer. Total load capacity was still 2 1/2 tons but truckers often encounter high cubic volume loads but with low total weight. The COE is the perfect solution.

Desks and empty office furniture come to mind as high volume, low weight loads. So are K rations.

The only trade off would be that the COE design offered more maintenance challenges as access to the engine was not as easy as on the standard Deuce.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 06:42 AM UTC
Howdy,

Was wondering if any one could set me straight concerning the interior of the hard top cab. Need to know if there were rifle racks like those seen in the soft top, and if so were they mounted the same way.

Brian Riedel
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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 08:27 AM UTC
I don't know the answer to that one other than to say "I don't think so."

Frenchy do you have anything on this question?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 05:20 PM UTC

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Frenchy do you have anything on this question?



http://www.cckw.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=778&start=0

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Posted: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - 11:09 PM UTC
Thanks - Sorry I had to wimp out on that question.
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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 01:15 AM UTC
You're welcome.

Here's a nice view of the closed cab interior :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rlb_photography/6198181460/sizes/o/in/photostream/

(from this F-3 Airfield Service GMC CCKW 353 Walk-around )

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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 02:00 AM UTC
Holy Moley - How you are going to force me to finish my Airport Fueler CCKW. I always thought that spare tire was off center to the passenger side. Well the one on my model is going to be - BECAUSE IT"S ALREADY INSTALLED! ! !
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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 02:44 AM UTC
Howdy,

Thank you for those informative links and pics. The interior cab shot also answered a question about the upper area above the windshield. It also pointed out a problem if you want to do use the Italeri kit with the gun ring for a closed cab. The part provided is only half of what is needed.

Now I can use the gun racks provided in the Italeri kits in my Heller open cab kit.

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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 02:49 AM UTC
Go on eBay and shop for the Italeri water truck which gives you a beautiful COMPLETE enclosed cab (NO opening for gun ring) and the full headliner treatment.
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Posted: Thursday, June 27, 2013 - 06:54 AM UTC
New Tankograd Publication covering the CCKW.

Armorama review can be viewed here:

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=9184
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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2013 - 02:01 AM UTC
Interesting Korean War (improvised ?) tanker truck :



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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2013 - 06:11 AM UTC
Howdy,

As a public service, I thought I might show the different cabs in Italeri's GMC CCKW353.

The different boxes:


In kit #271, the hole is open. In #6271, they plugged it up.


So now if you're looking for a hard top and don't want to mess too much with the hole, either get #6721 or the water truck. Of course, you'll have some work to do inside as the headliner is only the left half and the plug is a little sloppy in #6271.

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Posted: Friday, June 28, 2013 - 08:58 AM UTC
Talking about books, did you notice this release Michael ?



More info here :

http://www.squadronsignalpublications.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=SS80002

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