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MENG M2 - couple test shots
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:34 PM UTC
To get the appetite going









Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:51 PM UTC
Very nice. It looks like it will be awesome. It looks like, by the parts layout, all ERA boxes and added armor on a separate sprue etc., is leaning toward different versions.
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 10:56 PM UTC
This means workable suspension?



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.498090226970973.1073741839.195290177250981&type=1

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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 11:02 PM UTC
That's what it looks like. Its getting even better!
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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 11:08 PM UTC
Thanks for posting.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years

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Posted: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 - 11:55 PM UTC
Looks great indeed... with all the extras in the box, complete interior, workable suspension, track links, etc. the kit definitely seems to be very affordable.

Thanks for the news Hisham!

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 02:03 AM UTC
thats one kit to have in my stash thank for the photo's hisham

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 04:20 AM UTC
I mentioned this on their facebook page, but the track shoes are too skinny/thin IMO
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 04:45 AM UTC
Quite possibly but tracks can be swapped out-no kit is ever 100% perfect and the individual modeller can choose their own method.A new tool Bradley is a fine base to build on

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 05:29 AM UTC

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Quite possibly but tracks can be swapped out-no kit is ever 100% perfect and the individual modeller can choose their own method.A new tool Bradley is a fine base to build on



Right, but they should get the basics right and AM track are often nearly the same cost as the kit or even more in some cases! Its an easy fix anyways to fix the mold.

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 05:40 AM UTC
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 06:17 AM UTC
OK, I broke down and pre-ordered it at Lucky Model. It just keeps getting better looking w/each update. I can't wait to see the interior.
Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:07 AM UTC
I find this kind of occasional break downs therapeutic

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 03:55 PM UTC

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I mentioned this on their facebook page, but the track shoes are too skinny/thin IMO



As Hisham and I discussed in a thread on the Achzarit, sometimes two dudes can look at two different examples of the same vehicles, and walk away with two different impressions. I see nothing "wrong" per se, just different amounts of wear. These are worn flat:



Another example parked next to some fairly new shod tracks:


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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 04:53 PM UTC

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I mentioned this on their facebook page, but the track shoes are too skinny/thin IMO



As Hisham and I discussed in a thread on the Achzarit, sometimes two dudes can look at two different examples of the same vehicles, and walk away with two different impressions. I see nothing "wrong" per se, just different amounts of wear. These are worn flat:



The point is that the track is wore down as they have it molded now, and according to -10 requirements, would need to be replaced as soon as possible. I used to fix these things (and MRLS) so its not like I don't know what I'm talking about either.



Here is a M2A2 with just about new tracks as we got to lovely Bosina about 18 years ago

Scan from an very old manual on the Bradley -10 operators manual I have



I agree the tracks aren't "wrong" per say, but they aren't exactly correct either...I'd rather have a "factory fresh" model that I can beat up if necessary, then be limited by the manufacture as to what I can do.

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 05:06 PM UTC
I certainly wouldn't imply you don't know what you're talking about. I just don't find it to be an egregious error. Most of the tracks I saw in Iraq were worn down to the metal as well. We 18B's are known as the knuckle draggers of the team, but I'd have to think when the actual metal track is getting eaten away, it's way past needing to be replaced.
I think Meng is just giving us a well worn example, which is pretty much all I've seen, save for those coming out of the BAE Systems refit shop like the one in my photos.
At least according to your manual they are not NMC.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 06:48 PM UTC
Which is your opinion about having a cold war era Bradley starting from this kit and mixing parts from Tamiya first release?
Obviously on the chart since it's now impossible to say if these models have comparable dimension.
Bye
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Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:10 PM UTC
Couple more pics











Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:14 PM UTC






And PE template to paint the track shoes!



Come on, this is a REALLY nice kit

Hisham
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:19 PM UTC
Oh..... this looks so sweet!

~Chris
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:42 PM UTC

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I like this template, as well as all your pics shared. How's uesful!
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 07:50 PM UTC
Not MY pics.. Sorry, I always forget to make that clear

You can find all these pics here

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.498586860254643.1073741840.195290177250981&type=1

I just post them here because some people don't like to access FaceBook

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 09:05 PM UTC
This is epic!! I only hope my mediocre skills can do this kit justice.....

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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 09:40 PM UTC

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https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.498586860254643.1073741840.195290177250981&type=1

I just post them here because some people don't like to access FaceBook




I still like them.

Cheers.
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Posted: Thursday, December 19, 2013 - 09:59 PM UTC
I hope Meng also release a M1A1/M1A2 with interior in future. Great Releases.This will be my first Meng Kit.