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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 10:36 PM UTC
Great work, Mario! The corrections look really good!
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 09:15 PM UTC
Thanks for the encouragement guys.

Here is the progress... Another major surgery performed on the other side of the large resin chunk. All the removed items were replacedthe by some pieces from my spares box.



Now everything fits the cargo bay perfectly...





the crossbar can be installed...



and the roof as well.



I think this is it regarding the Black Dog piece. Finally.

Mario
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2014 - 10:38 PM UTC
Looks nice Mario, with all that resin you wont have to worry about it blowing off the contest table!

Ryan
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 05:12 PM UTC
Matt, sometimes in GMVs metal roofs was covered with canvas.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 04:38 PM UTC
looking good so far! the black dog stuff looks good. but what it with the roof? I thought the hummers had hard tops, not canvas roofs.
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Posted: Thursday, November 06, 2014 - 10:10 AM UTC
I would have probably chopped a bit out the roof to make a "SF custom" I like what youve done to correct and cover the mistakes, must have took time but it looks good.

To me some black dog guns look "floppy", similar to this item, it looks like they were taken out of the mold too early before they had set, or maybe the mold was not ridgid?

Anyway congratulations for sticking it out with the blackdog kit, seems like a bit of a nightmare to have done so much to it allready and its still not right, keep at it, your doing great so far! Just try to imagine it all painted up nice, it will be worth it in the end.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 11:55 PM UTC
Andre, thanks for your feedback. Yes, the camelback is too tall and has to be removed to fit the roof... Now I'm pretty sure the problem is in the Black Dog piece.

Mario
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 11:50 PM UTC
Stefan, thanks for the link. Actually I saw that build, it was the only example of using Black Dog Humvee conversion I found on the internet.

I don't know how is it possible the Black Dog piece has so many fit issues. The problems keep piling up wherever I turn to... I thought I may have not positioned the piece correctly when I started fitting it to the cargo bay, but I'm pretty sure that was not the case.

As for Legend conversion, I got it for about $70 at Lucky Models (free shipping) which is 7 euro more than I paid for Black Dog. Just a thought...

Mario
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 11:22 PM UTC
I had the same problem. The blackdog's stowage didn't fit under the Hmmwv roof and I sanded the "camelbak"to fit it.
I don't understand why they didn't test it before sell it.

I'll post some photos tomorrow.
Good Luck
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 10:41 PM UTC
Hi Mario,

very nice build so far and i am sorry for you about the big Problems you have with that nice looking Black Dog conversion set.

Here is a link to see the Problems if you use it with the Bronco M1114 kit!

Humvee GMV

i had the Black dog set one on my list too but after that and your Problems i will change to the Legend Productions one. It cost about 30 more in my local shop than the Black dog one but i think it is worth the Price when i see these Problems.

To cut away half of the Resin bits to realize an good fit is a shame to black dog. Why has nobody try out it by black dog before they release this total noncomforming product.

i have the Pro Art Models conversion set and it is OK but i wont buy it again. The Lengend one offers much more pieces, looks briliant, has high Quality and there are parts included for the Academy kit if you have one in stash too instead of the Tamiya one.

So many thanks for your wip and make the best of it.

Bye, bye

Stefan
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 09:54 PM UTC
Pete, I'm not sure if I'll use Black Dog roof or not. I know the rolled canvas pieces on the side and back of the roof could hide a lot, but that's just not the way I want to do this project.

Mario
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 01:41 PM UTC
Mario, is the resin trimming really necessary? If you look at the BlackDog box art photo, the side slats, canvas roof cover, and all the extra gear on the side really hides the back pillars from view, meaning the viewer would not have a clue if the roof is resting on pillars or on the gear itself.

I would think that all that resin gear would hide a lot of the issues with construction. If the cargo doesn't fit properly, then perhaps there would be gear to cover up this fact.

I know that this may sound like a cop-out, but the box photo seems to suggest that the fit issue isn't really a problem since it's all hidden under vast amounts of gear.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 05, 2014 - 09:29 AM UTC
I thought all the surgeries performed so far fixed the issues of fitting the Black Dog resin piece into Tamiya Humvee. Boy, was I wrong.

Dry fitting the roof revealed more problems. The large resin piece sits way too high... it blocks the perfect alignment of the roof and obstructs adding the roof communication units.





So, I started removing new portions of resin:



and replacing it with some resin bits from my spares box:



There is still a lot of work to be done in order to get everything aligned perfectly, and I'm getting pretty frustrated... Is the Black Dog resin piece worth all this trouble? I wonder how much of the original piece will be left after I'm through with it.

Now it seems the Legend conversion with some extra stowage would be a much better solution for the cargo bay.

Mario
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 02:24 AM UTC
I haven't subscribed in the system since i would prefer only to get notifications when the author (i.e. you Mario) makes updates.

Nothing against everyone else, but I don't want my e-mail to explode like it does after commenting someone's post on facebook, i.e. 100 messages such as "the post you commented on has now been commented on by somebody else" haha.

Is it possible to subscribe so notifications are only sent when the author makes an update?

Short answer Mario - I am following your build "manually" without notifications :-)
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 12:34 AM UTC
I'm subscribing and getting notifications, although I'm partly loathe to tell you because everyone for who it's working for will get told about my email.....

so better put in some content......

interesting build so far....I have 2 Legends GMV conversions to do...... so very useful

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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2014 - 12:23 AM UTC
Bro. I am also following this topic but no notifications till now.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 11:34 PM UTC
I'll have to see why the notifications are not coming through to some of you. Thanks for the responses guys.

Mario
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 11:20 PM UTC
I am subscribed and am getting new posts notifications.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:56 PM UTC
I did subscribe.... no notifications
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 10:01 PM UTC
Me - not. But I didn't 'subscribe' this thread.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 09:15 PM UTC
Thank you all.

One question for those following this build... are you receiving any kind of notification when the new post in this topic is made?

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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 05:55 PM UTC
Hello Mario!

Great to see you building this vehicle, and using both the Legend and Blackdog sets so they can be compared.

Very nice work so far, will definitely be following this one :-)
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 12:45 PM UTC
Thank you for the link, great review! For hand sculpted figures they are amazing! The close up pictures on the Historicus Forma review show the tiny details well too. The cool vignette made them almost look real. They are going to look awesome with this GMV.

Cheers, Bob
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 11:12 AM UTC
Great work, Mario! The Black Dog accessory set really adds a realistic feel and also lots of "eye candy" to your GMV. Despite the fit problems, it looks good and seems worth the effort.
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Posted: Sunday, October 26, 2014 - 08:44 AM UTC
I know this or that about Humvees, but a master? No, I don't think so. But thanks
This vehicle at photo above looks like fully loaded, but remember, that it's only a one view. We cannot see the interior, and I'm pretty sure, that this guy standing in the weapons ring has it's own seat empty at the back There is no gun visible at the back, so yes - the rear part of this Humvee could be super-loaded. Your point of view:

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I'm doing all the extra work with Black Dog piece just because it looks cool and I like vehicles with lots of stowage...


is ok for me The paint job on this stowage will be a gereat fun for You