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Panzerhaubitze 2000 Build
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 06:01 PM UTC
Darren Baker builds the Panzerhaubitze 2000 from Meng Model.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 07:43 PM UTC
Hi Darren,

thanks for sharing this extensive build. Very helpfull.
Good to see one of the, if not the, best guns in the world at this moment as a decent model. You did a lot of detailed work!
The only remark, please, if allowed, is the camo pattern. Pls., do have a look at Google and see that the overal impression of these howitsers is far less red, but more dark. Less than 20% of the surface should be painted brown. Furthermore, the edges of the camo should be rather sharp.
But.....
All together, i like the build and your comment.

P.
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 08:08 PM UTC
Regarding the end comments, yeah the Greek version is tempting, LM Decals recently released decals for it.

http://www.lmdecals.gr/en/135/77-lm35020

Cheers,

Christophe
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Posted: Friday, November 21, 2014 - 08:51 PM UTC
Impressive build Darren, Congratulations !
This could be something for me, i will return to do 1/35 scale AfVs in the future, as well the 1/72 scale kits.
Got a Meng Leopard, may i can did out a build here.

Cheers
Bernd
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 12:45 AM UTC
Paul if you take a look at the darker pictures it shows the colour as it appears to the naked eye, the red colour occured after I balanced the pictyre in Photo Shop. I am surprised on your comments about camouflage layout as I used ref pics online and checked them against what Meng offered, I accept it is not 100% but it is close.

Thank you for your comments guys.
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Posted: Saturday, November 22, 2014 - 10:34 PM UTC
Hi Darren, i took the liberty to comment since I have worked with these guns as an art Lcol! Actually, now I am rather confused since neither the Germans nor the Dutch have this camo pattern, so is it your intention to go further into the 4 color Greek scheme?
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 12:29 AM UTC
Paul; No that is the finished main painting and I was sure I was close, I am a little rattled now as I believed I had got it right, but thank you for pointing out I have got it wrong. As you have worked on these can you show me some pics of the tools on the vehicle please, I assume they are overall green with some wear and tear present.
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 01:47 AM UTC
If you compare this German scheme (photo from Prime Portal) you can see that the brown pattern in the middle is different from your portrayal. There are lots of photos on the Internet to verify - I don't know if your pattern is based on the instructions but it never hurts to double check!





Jim
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 01:53 AM UTC
Hi Daren,
first of all, I believe that the most important of modeling is the fact that one enjoys building and painting.
So, I am not supposed to ordeal on that.
But the camouflage pattern on the PzH2000, if used by the German or Dutch army, show differrent patterns. Spots, no bands! Only in Afghanistan, mud was used to camouflage them, though one can discuss the (non)sence of that, based on the huge defence around these important vehicles, static and while travelling (Their value was so high that they were flown back to Europe in stead of using road and sea transport from Afghanistan)
About the tools: they were supplied together with the vehicles, thus having a NATO olive color, with, in rare cases, clear wooden parts. However, most of it was just green, close to the base vehicle colour. The wear and tear is rather rare since these vehicles do "suffer" from budget reductions, thus being used rather seldomly. Money makes the world go around, even in the army!
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Posted: Sunday, November 23, 2014 - 08:46 AM UTC
Thank you for the added info Paul and Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 - 04:35 AM UTC
Thank you for your review and reports of the build. Since the finished model was photographed under poor lighting, I suggest that the reddish colour i the result of the camera trying to make a picture, and not be too accurate about it. I am a modeler, and have considerable photographic experience, having worked in labs and studios during the Kodak years, in both black and white and colour, in mixing and monitoring, quality control, etc. The model looks great Darren!