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FEATURE: Making Tentrolls
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2002 - 11:51 AM UTC
FAUST has contributed a nice article on making tentrolls (and bedrolls) using the age old technique that I think I learned from Shep Paine's Monogram inserts. It's great to have it on the site and with a diagram no less. Here's the link:

How to Make Tentrolls

As ussual if you have feedback or would like to talk about your own techniques for this please do so here. I use to spray my white glue mixture on if memory serves.

Thanks Faust!

Cheers,
Jim
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2002 - 01:47 PM UTC
Short and sweet, I like it. This is the kind of stuff I like to see as a novice. It is a lot easier to do something when you see it to me than just reading about it. More articles like this will help new modelers feel welcome on the site in my opinion.
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2002 - 02:00 PM UTC
That's right Drew. Those articles are a real treat to newcomers.
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Posted: Friday, June 14, 2002 - 09:36 PM UTC
Good article, very comprehensive specially for the begginers!
Keep up the good work
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Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 03:40 AM UTC
You can also use TP to simulate fabric on seats or truck/jeep canopies. Simply apply a thin layer of liquid glue to the plastic and carefull cover this with the TP, pressing it into the glue and let it dry. Then, paint it as you would normally. This can look very nice. I did it on a jeep years ago and it looked just like the real thing...

The nice part of the TP thing is the vast array of things you can make this way.
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Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 07:29 AM UTC

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You can also use TP to simulate fabric on seats or truck/jeep canopies. Simply apply a thin layer of liquid glue to the plastic and carefull cover this with the TP, pressing it into the glue and let it dry. Then, paint it as you would normally. This can look very nice. I did it on a jeep years ago and it looked just like the real thing...

The nice part of the TP thing is the vast array of things you can make this way.



Plus their is allways any abundunt supply around
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Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 08:51 AM UTC
Thanks very much FAUST. Drew and Eagle are absolutely correct. This kind of stuff is gold to beginners like myself. You have no idea how much it helps. If you think I am trying to encourage other experienced modelers to share their talents in little "how-to's" like this, you are absolutely correct. :-) Believe me, us "newbies" will worship the ground you walk on.

Mike

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Posted: Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 05:41 PM UTC
wow I never thought the trick would have such an impact
because I thought everyone knew it allready
In the future I`ll try to put up more of those tips and tricks with a diagram because they were a great help to me to when I started

I also want to thank you all for the good comments on the article

Robert "FAUST" Blokker :-)
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 02:57 AM UTC
Well the world will start laughing at this question, so please forgive me for asking but euhhhh what's TP ?
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 06:41 AM UTC
Well I think I can Help you

TP means Toilet Paper

greetz: Robert "FAUST" Blokker

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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 09:49 PM UTC

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You can also use TP to simulate fabric on seats or truck/jeep canopies. Simply apply a thin layer of liquid glue to the plastic and carefull cover this with the TP, pressing it into the glue and let it dry. Then, paint it as you would normally. This can look very nice. I did it on a jeep years ago and it looked just like the real thing...

The nice part of the TP thing is the vast array of things you can make this way.



Plus their is allways any abundunt supply around
Jeff



.................and so absorbant!
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:02 PM UTC
Very nice article Faust. I especially like the inclusion of the diagrams! :-)
Another, possibly more delicate way to moisten the TP is to use a small spray bottle filled with a water / Elmer's white glue mixture. In this way you can control the amount of moisture you apply, and the TP is more 'user-friendly' when handling, and your dry time is significantly shortened.
Additionally, another medium to use is the extra fine weave gauze pads available at hospital supply sources. Actually costs a couple of pesos (as opposed to the TP) but the look is also exceptional ( the tent/bed roll looks like it has 'heft' to it )
Another good source material for camo netting is the more open weave gauze. Turns out very nice.

Tread.



BTW, maybe someone should write an article about using different kinds of foil to make soft skins? Yogurt tops, coffee wraps, etc.? Just a thought.
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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:02 PM UTC

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TP means Toilet Paper



I thought it means Tissue Paper cause I usually do my tentrolls using tissue; never tried toilet paper... Anyways, very nice article with very helpfull diagrams. Thanks.

Mario M.


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Posted: Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 10:51 PM UTC
For advanced users of TP :-) : there's quite a few ideas on this subject in the scratchbuilding forum, too.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:44 PM UTC
I don't use toilet paper, but use the kind of tissue paper used for wrapping presents etc.
You don't have to handle it so gently when wet, and it dries to a nice semi-stiff consistency like canvas or some other heavy fabric.

Great pictures with the article!

Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 11:07 PM UTC
Thats what i use as well herberta. Married to a woman who is infatuated by new shoes, I make the most of that. The paper stuffed into the shoe to keep its shape is perfect. Its like some sort of tracing paper.
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Posted: Thursday, June 20, 2002 - 04:43 AM UTC
I use ordinary facial tissue; Kleenex or similar products. I have found that it holds together much better, and has enough wight to drape realistically. Toilet paper is made to dissolve, making it far more fragile than the shoebox tissue mentioned above or facial tissue. Being easily frustrated, I use materials least likely to give me grief! :-) :-)

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Posted: Saturday, August 17, 2002 - 08:31 PM UTC
Yes, tissue paper has worked well for me but I am going to experiment with other papers and try gauze out as well...

MSW
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 06:56 AM UTC

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but use the kind of tissue paper used for wrapping presents etc



I just used this to make some rolls and they turned out better than I thought I could make. On some of them to make them I wraped it around paper towels to make it thicker just for some variations. The finish on this type of paper seams to me to be more to scale for material, you don't get the particles sticking out that you get with regualar tissue (at least thats what happened when I tried to use it) and it isn't as coarse yet still has some texture. My digital camera was left at my brothers on vacation but as soon as I get it back I will post some pictures. I finished them off with oil paints and model ship building rope.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:14 AM UTC
WoW !!! Short and simple, but yet very easy !!!! What else can you ask for..... I really liked your article, FAUST.....
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:29 AM UTC
A great article and it inspired a good discussion. So even those who have done this before probably learned something. I'm glad you posted it. Thanks
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Posted: Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:17 PM UTC
Thanks for the tip, it helped alot. :-)
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Posted: Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:03 AM UTC
I'd also read that "bathroom tissue" was too delicate and was designed to dissolve. I always use whatever type of Kleenex we have inthe house. I typically apply watered down white glue to this with a wide brush rather than soaking it. As someone else said, much more control in the amount of water. I've used this extensively for mantlet covers and made a couple jeep sides and tops for my M-151 collection.