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AFV Painting & Weathering
Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Sources for weathering w/ oils & pigments
UpperCanadian
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 08:05 AM UTC
I'm trying to improve, and I don't yet feel as if I'm able to get satisfying results with weathering as I'd like.

In particular with oils and pigments. Oil streaking giving me grief, and so is knowing which pigment/wash combo to use.

So I'm wondering if anyone knows of websites or videos that are helpful here. Or books.

Dan (sorry for all of the posts).
phil2015
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 08:55 AM UTC

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I'm trying to improve, and I don't yet feel as if I'm able to get satisfying results with weathering as I'd like.

In particular with oils and pigments. Oil streaking giving me grief, and so is knowing which pigment/wash combo to use.

So I'm wondering if anyone knows of websites or videos that are helpful here. Or books.

Dan (sorry for all of the posts).



There are many and it's easy to feel overwhelmed. I'm on a strategy to minimize how many different of these things I use.

I'm sure others will have good suggestions. I'd like to suggest the VMS website. VMS is a vendor and is demonstrating his products. I have no experience with any of his products, yet. But his website is remarkable in terms of finding stuff, seeing what it looks like on models, and then having videos demonstrating how to use it.

I have no affiliation with him, but I do have an order in for a few things to try out.

https://www.vms-supplies.com/
Vicious
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 09:08 AM UTC
for the oils search the video of Mike Rinaldi
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 09:08 AM UTC
The only stupid question is the one not asked.

YouTube has got a lot of channels dedicated to model building, finishing and painting.

Here are a few I visit

Andy's hobby headquarters

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UChnAgeghaNKLdftbfJY8zNA

4guevara on-line

https://youtu.be/lg5ptgfazuQ

Scale model Jedi

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCSk5pyCjDilzytaceCr3_3g

I'm going to bed right now but I'll post more when I get up.

Just hit the subscribe button on the video some these are quite.

I'll talk to you later when I wake up


YankeeSteve
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 10:22 AM UTC
I find MIG's "The Weathering Aircraft" and their "The Weathering Magazine" to be very helpful in starting out..... Different approaches with different tools. Pick something and give it a go. I'm still learning!

If you have an iPad you can download them a bit more economically and I travel a lot so I have access to them anywhere!

I experiment with each kit!



Good Luck!!
UpperCanadian
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 10:28 AM UTC

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I find MIG's "The Weathering Aircraft" and their "The Weathering Magazine" to be very helpful in starting out..... Different approaches with different tools. Pick something and give it a go. I'm still learning!

If you have an iPad you can download them a bit more economically and I travel a lot so I have access to them anywhere!

I experiment with each kit!



Good Luck!!



Thanks. Nice work on that Spitfire!
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 10:41 AM UTC
Check out Night Shift chanel on YouTube. That guy quickly became my favourite source for modelling videos.
Kevlar06
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 11:12 AM UTC
Dan,
Youíll get as many suggestions, websites, books and tutorials as there are modelers out there. But the best one Iíve found so far is Panzermheister36ís Top 5 Weathering Techniques for Beginners, which Iíve linked below:

5 best weathering techniques for beginners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcUJ0BACO4

Itís a YouTube video showing most of the common approaches to weathering. Personally, I find most of my weathering products in hobby and craft stores, a selection of Mona Lisa oil paints, sponges, brushes, pallets and odorless thinner. Take a look at Panzermeisterís techniques.
VR, Russ



phil2015
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 11:48 AM UTC

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Dan,
Youíll get as many suggestions, websites, books and tutorials as there are modelers out there. But the best one Iíve found so far is Panzermheister36ís Top 5 Weathering Techniques for Beginners, which Iíve linked below:

5 best weathering techniques for beginners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcUJ0BACO4

Itís a YouTube video showing most of the common approaches to weathering. Personally, I find most of my weathering products in hobby and craft stores, a selection of Mona Lisa oil paints, sponges, brushes, pallets and odorless thinner. Take a look at Panzermeisterís techniques.
VR, Russ






Russ speaks truth....
Kevlar06
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 03:22 PM UTC

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Dan,
Youíll get as many suggestions, websites, books and tutorials as there are modelers out there. But the best one Iíve found so far is Panzermheister36ís Top 5 Weathering Techniques for Beginners, which Iíve linked below:

5 best weathering techniques for beginners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcUJ0BACO4

Itís a YouTube video showing most of the common approaches to weathering. Personally, I find most of my weathering products in hobby and craft stores, a selection of Mona Lisa oil paints, sponges, brushes, pallets and odorless thinner. Take a look at Panzermeisterís techniques.
VR, Russ






Russ speaks truth....



I try. Just take the time to watch the whole video, Itís well thought out, and well narrated to show you specific techniques using oils and a few other weathering mediums. Itís the best explanation Iíve run across in many years of model building. Without having to wade through a lot of other ďBuild StuffĒ (BS). 😆
VR, Russ
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Posted: Monday, August 24, 2020 - 03:51 PM UTC
Hi Dan,

Adam Wilder produces many types of weathering products - oils, pigments, acrylic and solvent-based. He has an extensive gallery of how-to videos. One series is 27 (!) videos showing how he weathers a Kv-1.

This video is less than 5 minutes and introduces his weathering oils in a tongue and cheek way: WEATHERING OILS

This one is 12 minutes: Tutorial: Oil Weathering Effects for Panzer Grey Model Tanks Wilder YouTube

Here is a list of reviews here on KitMaker: https://railroadmodeling.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showmaker&makerid=1338
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 04:20 AM UTC
Here's a couple more sites I watch, some mainly for kit reviews but they do have tips.

International Scale Modeller
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCERZRnW_I0acIiDsORviL-Q

Panzermeister36
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXc4ExjUQwV1J6dPhRtvaFA
Kevlar06
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 06:29 AM UTC
Again, Iíll say it. There are as many tips, techniques and videos out there as there are modelers. Adam Wilder has done a lot for the oil weathering community, and I very much appreciate his work, as well as that of other artists. I think the original poster is looking for a basic tutorial. Panzermiester36ís is the most succinct, to the point and clear tutorial Iíve seen so far. He uses some of Wilderís products, but I maintain, as Panzermeister does, you donít necessarily need to use ďname brand model relatedĒ products to get a good result. As I mentioned, I go to my local art store (or Michaels, Hobby Lobby, or my local hobby shop), and using my discount coupons, I buy my materials there (although Iíll admit, I have some Abteilung and Wilder oils in my paint box). But I achieve the same weathering results with those simple lower priced materials as others do with more ďcommercial hobbyĒ labeled products. A case in point is my review build article on the Roden Holt tractor below:

https://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=14507

Almost all of the weathering was accomplished using inexpensive oil techniques explained in the video Iím touting above. Frankly, I get tired of looking at endless videos of different ways to do techniques, or showcasing models or products. I find itís best to find a way, and then stick to it. Iíll admit it, Iím a shameless promoter of Panzaermiester36s simple and straightforward weathering videos. Iím just a simple guy, and all this YouTube stuff confuses me.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 06:46 AM UTC

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Check out Night Shift chanel on YouTube. That guy quickly became my favourite source for modelling videos.



He's my favorite too!

Here's his YouTube link...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNM5EknY1XBA9buLmJqYLdw
UpperCanadian
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Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 - 06:46 PM UTC
Thanks everyone!