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Dragon M-103A1...WHAT is it really??????
swede82
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 04:46 AM UTC
OK, I love looking up info on a project but this is boggling my mind! What is this tank?? It is not a -103A1 nor does it match any -103 photos from the rear! Is this maybe a T-43 or T-43A1 or -E2?? Is it a major mfg. screwup?? Would love to hear from anyone that has info on this !!!!!
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 04:53 AM UTC
Pawel did a very thorough corrective build of this. Some data derived from my walkaround. What is it? One word: Abomination.
Tank1812
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 05:03 AM UTC

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Is it a major mfg. screwup??


In a way yes, Black Label mean KOD (kiss of death) just walk away and you will be happier. You have been warned.
swede82
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 06:02 AM UTC
Did Pawel post anything on here, like a build or a run down on this kit? Is this just a stick it together and put it on the shelf? Is there another mfg. that has the -103 kit available?
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 06:38 AM UTC
http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=234669

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=219229&ord=&page=1

And finally:

https://vodnik.net/pages/M103A1/m103a1.htm

Only game in town for 1/35 plastic. There was a resin one from Commanders(?) but apparently not up to snuff either.
Cantstopbuyingkits
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Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2020 - 06:53 AM UTC

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Only game in town for 1/35 plastic. There was a resin one from Commanders(?) but apparently not up to snuff either.


Apparently it seems like much of the BL kits was copied from the Commander Models' version of the vehicle.
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2020 - 02:53 AM UTC

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OK, I love looking up info on a project but this is boggling my mind! What is this tank?? It is not a -103A1 nor does it match any -103 photos from the rear! Is this maybe a T-43 or T-43A1 or -E2?? Is it a major mfg. screwup?? Would love to hear from anyone that has info on this !!!!!

Major screwup!
One of many problems is the kit uses a lengthened M48 hull when the M103 had a unique hull with a different “nose” profile than the M48.
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